Beep, beep, beep .....
Back it on up there Mike - or is that the sound of a city plow truck
backing out of the bike path after forgetting the new mayor's directive
that bicycle facilities not be maintained for 6 months of the year?
Chuck's comment succinctly hit the issue squarely on the head, but I'll
rehash it for you : if the mayor doesn't believe bikes should be used in
the winter, how likely is he to direct city resources towards them
during that period?
On 4/11/2011 6:19 PM, Mike Bachhuber wrote:
Let's all get over it. I rode my bike all Winter. I regularly have
my head examined, too. A lot of us could probably benefit from some
head examination but that is inconsequential to support for biking.
As several members of this list have pointed out, Soglin has supported
biking initiatives over the years. Those urging dialog rather than
criticizing the shoot-from-the-hip rhetoric will help us move forward.
Mike
Soglin - anagram for logins
--- On *Wed, 4/6/11, Chuck Strawser /<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: Chuck Strawser <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 1:00 PM
I'm saying that Soglin said this year, one week ago:
'people who bike in the winter should have their head examined'
Regardless of whether the mayor chooses to ride a bike in winter
(or at all), I think it is a problem that he apparently questions
the sanity of those of us who do choose to ride a bike in winter
(as I have done for 13 winters with no real problems, other than
having to detour around wrecks caused by operators of motor
vehicles who discounted the safety issues of traveling by any
mode in winter conditions).
If nothing else, it suggests that he will place a very low
priority on important issues that encourage of discourage more
cycling any time, but especially in winter, when, for example, the
difference between plowing snow from bike paths and bike lanes can
make the difference between someone riding a bike to work or
driving a car.
what else will fall to the wayside? implementation of the
recommendations of the platinum city bicycling committee report? I
think we need to hear what the mayor's policy on cycling for
transportation (in any season) is for the city he was just elected
to run.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Robert F. Nagel
<[email protected] </mc/[email protected]>> wrote:
so, you're saying, you think he really thinks cyclists should
be executed for riding after that second storm?
---
Robert F. Nagel
[email protected] </mc/[email protected]>
www.nagel-law.com <http://www.nagel-law.com/>
Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
Madison, WI 53703
608-255-1501 office
608-255-1504 fax
608-438-9501 cell
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Strawser
<[email protected] </mc/[email protected]>>
wrote:
A friend posted to FB on March 30, 2011 (apologies to my
friend, who I do not think subscribes to this list, for
copying a post open only to her friends to a public list
serv). I have blind cc'd her. If she allows me to link her
FB post to this list, I will.
"Soglin still believes that 'people who bike in the winter
should have their head examined.' He told me this morning,
when he was campaigning outside of the Co-op. This was
just before the GM came out to speak to him, I think she
asked him to leave."
So while Soglin’s previous comment about shooting cyclists
may have been “tongue-in-cheek” (“kidding on the square”?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kidding%20on%20the%20Square)...
I think our new (old) mayor’s attitude towards cycling as
transportation needs changing, so I don't think we are
actually beating a dead horse, literally or figuratively.
chuck
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*From:*[email protected]
</mc/[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
</mc/[email protected]>] *On
Behalf Of *Robert F. Nagel
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:29 PM
*To:* VIOLA, INDIA R
*Cc:* [email protected] </mc/[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Remember This?
i think he addressed that comment on his blog by noting
that it was tongue in cheek or whatever in parentheses, as
if it wasn't apparent that he didn't intend to be taken
literally; seems like you might be beating a dead horse,
although i do not believe that you are actually beating a
dead horse; sometimes we use colorful language, and it's
ok, although of course language does not really have color
---
Robert F. Nagel
[email protected] </mc/[email protected]>
www.nagel-law.com <http://www.nagel-law.com/>
Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
Madison, WI 53703
608-255-1501 office
608-255-1504 fax
608-438-9501 cell
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:07 PM, India Rose Viola
<[email protected] </mc/[email protected]>> wrote:
Has Soglin been asked to recant or clarify his intentions
with that stupid comment? I think his comment reflects a
moment of poor judgment on his part, but am wondering what
his actual stance is on bike advocacy, improving bike
infrastructure in Madison, retaining funding for biking etc.
-india
On 04/06/11, Robin wrote:
> Well, this being a bike advocacy list (ring your brass
bells people!)
> having a reactionary doofus like Soggy-Dog-Doglin as
mayor is a little
> frightening.
>
> Am I off base here?
>
> Maybe we should go back to discussing car horns during
protests around
> the square?
>
> PS- As mayor Soglin once chased a motorcyclists down on
the beltline
> at speeds up to 100 mph. Is Mayor/Officer Soglin going
to run me over
> in his SUV next winter when he passes me on East Mifflin?
>
> R.
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Robert F. Nagel
<[email protected]
</mc/[email protected]>> wrote:
> > your point being?
> > ---
> > Robert F. Nagel
> > [email protected] </mc/[email protected]>
> > www.nagel-law.com <http://www.nagel-law.com/>
> > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
> > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
> > Madison, WI 53703
> > 608-255-1501office
> > 608-255-1504fax
> > 608-438-9501cell
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Robin
<[email protected]
</mc/[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our new/old mayor, circa 2007:
> >>
<http://www.waxingamerica.com/2007/12/bicycling-madis.html>
> >>
> >> (Tongue in cheek mode ON) "The bicyclists who braved
the week's second
> >> storm should be taken out and shot."
> >>
> >> Awesome!
> >> --
> >> Pointlessly blogging at www.robindavies.us
<http://www.robindavies.us/>
> >> Try something new every day.
--
India Viola
Stretton Lab
115 Zoology Research
1117 W. Johnson St.
Madison, WI 53706
608.262.3336
"How can we learn from our mistakes if we don't first
acknowledge them?" -Anonymous
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