Looked at this following the API owners meeting and given that the
usecounters
<https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560> landed
in 112, I think we can expect stable data early April but not before.

Joey - does that match your understanding?

On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:04 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:07 PM Simon Pieters <zcor...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> Thanks for working on this, Joey. Removing quirks where possible is
>> always nice!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:18 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good, I'm adding a UseCounter here:
>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Joey,
>>>> Thanks for working to remove a quirk! Although we haven't written it
>>>> into our compat principles <http://bit.ly/blink-compat>, I'm
>>>> personally willing to accept greater compat risk for removing quirks as
>>>> they're by-definition legacy behavior of the web which create an ongoing
>>>> complexity burden for the platform which we should seek to eventually
>>>> eliminate.
>>>>
>>>> Reading through the history
>>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2988#issuecomment-1271763702>
>>>> of WebKit not being able to make this change due to severe breakage in
>>>> bugzilla and seeing that we still load 12% of pages in quirks mode
>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2034>,
>>>>
>>>
>> In https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2020/markup#conclusion the number
>> was 3.97% of *pages* in httparchive are in quirks mode, and if I remember
>> correctly, this has further declined slightly in 2021 and 2022. I'm not
>> sure why there's a 3x discrepancy between the use counter page view number
>> and the httparchive pages number, though. Does an about:blank iframe
>> trigger the use counter?
>>
>
> Wow, that is surprising to me! Typically the biggest discrepancy comes
> from the fact that usage is head-heavy with 1/3rd of page loads being
> from the top 100 origins
> <https://twitter.com/RickByers/status/1195342331588706306>, and I would
> absolutely expect the head to not be using quirks mode. Perhaps there's one
> or two popular sites using quirks mode? No, only http/https schemes
> contribute to UseCounters IIRC so about:blank shouldn't be the problem.  Or
> maybe there's some discrepancy in how we're identifying quirky pages.
>
> cheers,
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>> https://www.mozilla.com/
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