Yes, that matches my understanding. I can see on omahaproxy that the
usecounter was merged in 112 and I can see on chromiumdash that 112 goes to
stable on april 4

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:11 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Looked at this following the API owners meeting and given that the
> usecounters
> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560> landed
> in 112, I think we can expect stable data early April but not before.
>
> Joey - does that match your understanding?
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:04 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:07 PM Simon Pieters <zcor...@mozilla.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks!
>>>
>>> Thanks for working on this, Joey. Removing quirks where possible is
>>> always nice!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:18 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds good, I'm adding a UseCounter here:
>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Joey,
>>>>> Thanks for working to remove a quirk! Although we haven't written it
>>>>> into our compat principles <http://bit.ly/blink-compat>, I'm
>>>>> personally willing to accept greater compat risk for removing quirks as
>>>>> they're by-definition legacy behavior of the web which create an ongoing
>>>>> complexity burden for the platform which we should seek to eventually
>>>>> eliminate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading through the history
>>>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2988#issuecomment-1271763702>
>>>>> of WebKit not being able to make this change due to severe breakage in
>>>>> bugzilla and seeing that we still load 12% of pages in quirks mode
>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2034>,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> In https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2020/markup#conclusion the number
>>> was 3.97% of *pages* in httparchive are in quirks mode, and if I remember
>>> correctly, this has further declined slightly in 2021 and 2022. I'm not
>>> sure why there's a 3x discrepancy between the use counter page view number
>>> and the httparchive pages number, though. Does an about:blank iframe
>>> trigger the use counter?
>>>
>>
>> Wow, that is surprising to me! Typically the biggest discrepancy comes
>> from the fact that usage is head-heavy with 1/3rd of page loads being
>> from the top 100 origins
>> <https://twitter.com/RickByers/status/1195342331588706306>, and I would
>> absolutely expect the head to not be using quirks mode. Perhaps there's one
>> or two popular sites using quirks mode? No, only http/https schemes
>> contribute to UseCounters IIRC so about:blank shouldn't be the problem.  Or
>> maybe there's some discrepancy in how we're identifying quirky pages.
>>
>> cheers,
>>> --
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>>> https://www.mozilla.com/
>>>
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