Friendly ping! :) On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 7:13:25 PM UTC+1 Joey Arhar wrote:
> Yes, that matches my understanding. I can see on omahaproxy that the > usecounter was merged in 112 and I can see on chromiumdash that 112 goes to > stable on april 4 > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:11 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Looked at this following the API owners meeting and given that the >> usecounters >> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560> landed >> in 112, I think we can expect stable data early April but not before. >> >> Joey - does that match your understanding? >> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:04 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:07 PM Simon Pieters <zcor...@mozilla.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks! >>>> >>>> Thanks for working on this, Joey. Removing quirks where possible is >>>> always nice! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:18 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds good, I'm adding a UseCounter here: >>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560 >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Joey, >>>>>> Thanks for working to remove a quirk! Although we haven't written it >>>>>> into our compat principles <http://bit.ly/blink-compat>, I'm >>>>>> personally willing to accept greater compat risk for removing quirks as >>>>>> they're by-definition legacy behavior of the web which create an ongoing >>>>>> complexity burden for the platform which we should seek to eventually >>>>>> eliminate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reading through the history >>>>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2988#issuecomment-1271763702> >>>>>> of WebKit not being able to make this change due to severe breakage in >>>>>> bugzilla and seeing that we still load 12% of pages in quirks mode >>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2034>, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> In https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2020/markup#conclusion the >>>> number was 3.97% of *pages* in httparchive are in quirks mode, and if I >>>> remember correctly, this has further declined slightly in 2021 and 2022. >>>> I'm not sure why there's a 3x discrepancy between the use counter page >>>> view >>>> number and the httparchive pages number, though. Does an about:blank >>>> iframe >>>> trigger the use counter? >>>> >>> >>> Wow, that is surprising to me! Typically the biggest discrepancy comes >>> from the fact that usage is head-heavy with 1/3rd of page loads being >>> from the top 100 origins >>> <https://twitter.com/RickByers/status/1195342331588706306>, and I would >>> absolutely expect the head to not be using quirks mode. Perhaps there's one >>> or two popular sites using quirks mode? No, only http/https schemes >>> contribute to UseCounters IIRC so about:blank shouldn't be the problem. Or >>> maybe there's some discrepancy in how we're identifying quirky pages. >>> >>> cheers, >>>> -- >>>> Simon Pieters >>>> https://www.mozilla.com/ >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAFUtAY8ZizCwMOX_r8dKbJ44xNkih7J4Tx7z31DNnPOrmLRH%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAFUtAY8ZizCwMOX_r8dKbJ44xNkih7J4Tx7z31DNnPOrmLRH%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/30263cfe-47e6-40ee-b1f6-6e25d1a08254n%40chromium.org.
