We do list all our publications on milky...@home.  Both my PhD thesis and 
Nathan Cole's PhD thesis are up on the site for our users.  We've also made 
public talks we've given about the project available too.

We've actually had a fairly good response to this, which makes me happy as I 
think it does get people more interested and involved with the science going on.

There's also some astronomy currently in the works for publication (as far as I 
know).  We've had some interesting results that have invalidated what's 
currently known about the Milky Way, but I think until we have some more 
positive results in that direction (as in providing a new answer), those 
publications are going to have to wait.

At any rate, I think some of the best responses and discussions we've had from 
our users is when we've taken the time to discuss either the astronomy or the 
computer science going on at our projects -- and I think this has actually 
brought some people out of the woodwork, who normally wouldn't post.

I think one thing to remember is that people love drama, and for BOINC, credit 
is the drama.  A lot more people watch evening drama TV shows than watch the 
news :P In some sense, it's not entirely a bad thing because the credit drama 
keeps people coming back to visit projects websites, even if it is just to 
whine; so they may catch up on some of the science going on while they're there.

--Travis


On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul D. Buck wrote:

> On MW Travis also discussed albeit briefly his state on getting his degree, 
> but it was an aside in a thread not a stand alone ...
> 
> But I digress ...
> 
> 
> On Jan 15, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Maureen Vilar wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jord and all
>> 
>> I thought that research publications had been listed on Milky Way. And some
>> projects by their nature lead to discoveries that don't lend themselves to
>> publications. I would have thought for example that if a new prime number is
>> discovered, this wouldn't necessarily lead to an article; maybe just a
>> mention somewhere or an addition to a preexisting list. But the work's been
>> done and the result is ready for future use.
>> 
>> In the case of Seti no result can be published until the day when / if some
>> alien signal is detected. But the project's search processes are constantly
>> being refined and I think its developers make an excellent job of informing
>> members about process developments.
>> 
>> Several projects lead to PhD theses. In the UK a copy of every thesis is
>> deposited in the library of its own university and probably at the British
>> Library and the Cambridge Uni Library as well. Other countries doubtless
>> have similar systems. But I don't think there's a system yet for making a
>> copy of each thesis available online. For example, quite a few theses have
>> come from CPDN work but I've never seen any. This must also apply to a
>> number of other projects.
>> 
>> Even if theses can't yet be looked at, even to read the acknowledgements and
>> (presumably) see the crunchers thanked there for generating the raw results,
>> I do find it disappointing that doctoral students don't automatically after
>> completion come onto project websites or forums to tell crunchers what the
>> research was about and say that they've gained the qualification.
>> 
>> So there is more research going on at Boinc projects than is immediately
>> obvious, but some researchers and admins really should make a greater effort
>> to communicate this to the crunchers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regarding unpleasant and unacceptable behaviour by a tiny minority of
>> project members. We all know we wouldn't want to be friends or spend much
>> time with everybody we meet out on the street. We certainly can't allow our
>> lives to be made miserable by the tiny minority who are unjustifiably rude.
>> 
>> I believe that the project mainly alluded to by Jorden has now pretty well
>> cleaned up its act. We have to put behind us some of what happened in the
>> past. What matters is how people are behaving and speaking here and now. We
>> all know whose opinions matter.
>> 
>> I'm going to make a suggestion about how Boinc could make it easier for
>> admins and moderators to do a good job on the forums.
>> 
>> On CPDN we also have an independent forum with completely different software
>> from the Boinc forums. We have a hidden section available to the
>> researchers, admins and mods. We can discuss tricky situations, difficult
>> members, what to do, log the actions we take. We can have a laugh and
>> support each other. Tell each other whether we've done the right thing or
>> not.
>> 
>> I know that email lists can be used for behind-the-scenes communications.
>> But they're far less efficient than a hidden forum area, if only because on
>> a forum you see all the posts in the right chronological order. I work in a
>> school where I do not know how we could function without the staffroom. At
>> CPDN I do not know how we would manage without the hidden forum area.
>> 
>> I am suggesting that Boinc could provide an optional hidden forum area for
>> each project.
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