Hello

I absolutely aggree that VfW is an obsolete standard. I only mentioned
it because it was the standard when I developed the video module for
iPath. But the principle is the same no matter what kind of drivers for
video is used.

The idea is that of a client application that can login to care2x and
then identify a patient and then on the press of a button grab an image
from the video stream and send it to the specified patient folder.

For those interested, i could set up a simple demo of the concept with
our iPath server at Uni Basel. To test the current solution, you will
need a VfW video source and an internet connection (port 80 is
sufficient). If there is interest, I'll post a short description soon.

Kurt





On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 11:35, Alexander H�lzel wrote:
> Hello Kurt,
> 
> to my opinion a camera module is definitely one of the most needed and most
> attractive for Care2x.
> 
> Regarding VfW, it is to say that Video-for-Windows as a standard is out.
> 
> "Modern" MS-Windows machines use DirectX/WDM driver models to connect
> digital cameras. See
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/tech/stream/vidcap/default.mspx for more
> details.
> See also a short intro here:
> http://www.1394imaging.com/resources/backgnd/software/what_is_wdm/
> 
> I suppose most Care2x clients will operate under MS-Win OS, so WDM will be
> the appropriate technology to use.
> If you buy a camera from a specialized vendor like
> http://www.theimagingsource.com you get WDM (and VfW) drivers, including SDK
> (VB and C++), Documentation etc for free.
> 
> Btw, if you need video capture for notebooks this vendor also sells a very
> useful Video-to-firewire converter box
> http://www.theimagingsource.com/prod/grab/dfg13941/dfg13941.htm to allow
> notebooks (with PCMCIA-port) to capture full 640x480 / 30 fps Video. You
> will need this box if your video source is not USB or firewire but
> Standard-Video composite or Y/C.
> 
> Surely one can also use some Video-USB Box like WinTV PVR USB
> http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvrusb_datasheet.htm
> for this task. But I really do not know if and how it integrates via SDK.
> 
> A cheap (79USD) -quasi ready made- ActiveX control based on VB and WDM is
> sold by http://www.fathsoft.com/videocapx.html. It works perfectly.
> 
> I do not know much about Imaging for Linux.
> Anyway here are some -maybe useful- links.
> http://www.nmt.edu/~kscott/video/
> http://www.shallowsky.com/limaging.html
> 
> Greetings to wonderful Southern Africa !
> 
> Alex
> 
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> From: "Kurt Brauchli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] digital camera
> 
> 
> > Hello
> >
> > > Care2x has no module for direct communication to a digital camera yet.
> >
> > Is this a desired module?
> >
> > I have been doing something similar for our iPath project, where we have
> > a module that allows remote control of a microscope. What we did is
> > split the application into two parts:
> > - a web application for viewing and uploading images (PHP/PERL)
> > - a client application that talks with the camera and with the webserver
> > (Visual C++)
> >
> > If you need to create a large amount of images, such a split can be very
> > useful, since a local applciation at the client side can be much more
> > efficient to work with.
> >
> > Such a client-app could e.g. look like this:
> > - Get a PatientID (e.g. barcode)
> > - client verifies if patient exists and shows initials for check
> > - drag images to a drag&drop and client uploads automatically to server
> >   or with VfW (Video Camera), just click a button to store image on
> >   server
> >
> > If there is interested for such a module, I could help to develop it.
> > Please let me know if anyone thinks such a module is needed.
> >
> > regards
> > Kurt
> >
> >
> > -- 
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