Dears, I used to be a DJ, and I know that the proper phrase for mixing is ???
Mohannad Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -----Original Message----- From: Ali Jani <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:25:54 To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [cc-arab-world] Remix in Arabic A very good point ! I'll also support the term propposed by Dr. Khoury "????? ????? "????? Ali Jani Directeur artistique <http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/11/32/64/32/mediak10.jpg> Media Visions Editing 25 rue M. Ibn Abi Sofiene, 2eme étage 1002 Tunis Belvédère Tél : 71 285 565 71 285 582 Fax : 71 285 570 Mobile : 50 817 206 2011/10/4 ????????? <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > I think Dr.Khoury is right and I +1 his opinion in this matter. On Oct 4, 2011 9:11 PM, "Pierre El Khoury" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > Dear all, > > I just want to jump into this discussion to give my opinion from a legal > point of view. > > I will take back all of the arabic expressions in the poll and explain why > none of the proposed terms is accurate: > > ???: means blending/mingle/incorporate/mixing-up > > ????? ???: means re-blending / re-mingle / re-incorporate / re-mixing-up > > ?????: synthesis > > ?????: hybridization > > ???: mixing > ????? ???: re-mixing > > Now what does the word Remix mean? > > "A remix is an alternative version of a recorded song, made from an original > version. This term is also used for any alterations of media other than song > (film, literature, beverages etc.)" (wikipedia) > This means making an alternative copy after alteration of the original > version; and alteration means an event that occurs when something passes > from one state or phase to another. > > So here we need an expression that explains the three following things: an > original version / an alteration of it / and the result, i.e. the > alternative copy > > None of all the proposed Arabic terms indicates such triple meaning. > > What should be the Arabic meaning of Remix in this case? > > In Arabic the word used to indicate an original version of a work including > many instruments, tools, persons, works, parts...etc is ?????? (i.e. > assortment, set...). The Arabic expression (????????? ?????????) is used to > indicate the music compositions per se (with or without lyrics). At a > certain extent, this expression could be extended to incorporate any work > (artistic or literary) other than music, and to indicate the work itself. > Sometimes we use it also to indicate choreography (??????? ???). > So, before the "remix", there was a "mix", i.e. the original version. In > this case the original version would stand for «????? » in Arabic (????? = > forming/formation/modeling), and the "remix" after alteration would stand > for «????? ????? ».But, to avoid any confusion, I would say why not use the > word remix in Arabic letters in brackets after the Arabic legal meaning of > "Remix", thus I second Mohammad Darwish proposition, and the Arabic meaning > of Remix in the deeds would be: > "????? ????? (?????)" Here again, if the crowd votes for another expression, > unfortunately in a numerical democracy I cannot alone "democratically" beat > all the others even if my opinion was the right one from a legal point of > view. (This happened in Qatar where the issue was the meaning of "Creative > Commons" in Arabic. I accepted not because ?????? ???????? is the right term > legally speaking but because the crowd chose it). > > Regards, > > --- > Pierre El Khoury, Dr. > > Secteur 5, Rue 21, Imm.3 > Baouchrieh - Beyrouth > LIBAN > cel. +961 3125538 <tel:%2B961%203125538> > > -------- > > 44 Via Albano > 00179 Roma > ITALIA > cel.+39 3406968281 <tel:%2B39%203406968281> > > > 2011/10/3 Hanna Kreitem <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> Or simply, answer the poll below: >> >> If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out >> online: >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDJ6clBoVzdTVjdXa3dQMzBHZ05ET0E6MQ >> >> ??????? ???? >> >> >> ????? ???? Remix???? ?????? ?????? ????? >> >> - ????? >> - ??? >> - ????? ??? >> - ????? >> - ????? >> - ??? >> - ????? ??? >> - Other: >> >> >> Sample Question 2 >> >> Powered by Google Docs <http://docs.google.com/> >> >> >> I will send the results 48 hours from now. >> >> Hanna >> >> 2011/10/3 Abdelmonam Kouka <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> >>> Well for the how hereafter the solution: >>> 1- choose the a list to vote >>> 2- use http://www.doodle.com to make a poll >>> 3- fix a date and then pick the result >>> that's all :) >>> >>> >>> 2011/10/3 Hala Essalmawi <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >>>> I support ??? >>>> >>>> let's put a deadline where we decide the final word to choose. and how >>>> should we decide! >>>> >>>> *From:* Hisham Almiraat <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> *To:* Hanna Kreitem <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Wael >>>> Attili <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> *Cc:* Mohamad Najem <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >; Houssem Aoudi < >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Howaida Nadim >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; " >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >; "[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> " >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:55 PM >>>> *Subject:* RE: [cc-arab-world] Remix in Arabic >>>> ** >>>> Excellent! I +1 it :)** >>>> ~Brevity and typos courtesy of HTC >>>> From: Hanna Kreitem**Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 9:04 AM**To: Wael >>>> Attili**Cc: Mohamad Najem; Houssem Aoudi; Howaida Nadim; >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> **Subject: Re: >>>> [cc-arab-world] Remix in Arabic**** >>>> +1 ?????**** >>>> 2011/9/30 Wael Attili <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >** >>>> >>>> ??? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ???????? >>>> >>>> ????? ??????? ???? >>>> ????? >>>> >>>> ??? ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ???? >>>> ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ????????? >>>> ????? ???? >>>> **** >>>> 2011/9/30 Mohamad Najem <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >** >>>> >>>> ?? ???????? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ??????? ???? ???????? ???? ?????? >>>> ? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??????? ?????? >>>> >>>> ?? ????? >>>> ???? >>>> ** >>>> 2011/9/30 Houssem Aoudi <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >** >>>> >>>> I find also ??? the more adapted term****_______ >>>> Houssem Aoudi >>>> Twitter : @nayzek >>>> Web : <http://www.aoudi.net/>www.Aoudi.net <http://www.Aoudi.net> >>>> <http://www.aoudi.net/> >>>> **Le 30 sept. 2011 à 07:30, Howaida Nadim <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > a écrit :* >>>> *** >>>> >>>> I also prefer ??? >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Howaida >>>> >>>> >>>> ** >>>> Howaida Nadim >>>> Executive Director, Communications >>>> *Tel: * >>>> 44995323 >>>> *Fax: * >>>> 44935913 >>>> *Email: * >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Web: * >>>> www.ictqatar.qa <http://www.ictqatar.qa> >>>> *Facebook: * >>>> www.facebook.com/ictQatar <http://www.facebook.com/ictQatar> >>>> *<7989fc.png>* >>>> ** >>>> *PO Box-23264,Doha,Qatar* >>>> **The information in this email and any attachments thereto, may >>>> contain information that is confidential, protected by intellectual >>>> property >>>> rights, and may be legally privileged. 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[email protected]. ?????? ??? ???? ?? ????????? ????? ???????? ??? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar. -- لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى [email protected] لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة، أرسل رسالة إلكترونية إلى [email protected]. للحصول على مزيد من الخيارات، يمكنك الانتقال إلى هذه المجموعة على العنوان http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar.
