Yeah, sorry, Sean's right.  And, btw, everyone knows about the NDA and he
didn't voilate it with material details.  If that were the case, every
vendor would be violateing the NDA just by being in business as material
writers and teachers are expected to have taken the exam themselves.  We're
expected to know the technology, we're allowed to know that CUE is expected
to integrate with CUCM.  And, by the way, picking out a newbie in the field
is quick and easy when the first words out of their mouth are "NDA XXX".

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Sean B Davis <seanbda...@mavetech.com>wrote:

>  Which part? I am completely disappointed with all the training
> providers lack of prep for the new version. I do not see any thing in my
> comment that is NDA. I have given no details and will not, I am just
> saying there are technologies in the blue print that are not covered
> fully in the Workbooks out there. I am also not seeing how every
> impression posted does not even mention this. It's time someone spoke a
> little truth on this list. It's also time the the training providers
> started getting out from behind the 8 ball. If I where any of the
> training companies out there right now I would stop having classes and
> focus on getting my content up to the new blue print and not just adding
> a few things to the old content. I have now spent $6000 on over price
> workbooks and rack rentals just to be completely blindsided on the test.
> I would expect to see a few things on the test that are necessarily on
> the workbooks but not to this extent. Now ever rack providers is saying
> they will not have CUCM capabilities for the CUE until mid to late
> September. How hard is it to put a ftp client and the software on the VM
> PC??????? Anwser 25 mins on our VM Ware server here in the office, the
> systems guys say the could copy the updated VM to 30 ESX boxes by
> morning! Guys that are just starting should know what is lacking, where
> is this info when you order!?  What the training providers need to
> realize is that not all off work for national Cisco parters with
> unlimited budgets and see every technology done in the real world. We
> depend on them to have update material and lab equipment/configurations.
>
> Sean
>
> c george
> Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:30:00 -0700
>
> maybe you should rephrase your comment alittle maybe?!
>
> Respectfully Charles George
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:10:11 -0500
> > From: seanbda...@mavetech.com
> > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Impression of V3 - My two cents worth.
> >
>  > This was my third time around, twice with v2 now once with V3. Yes it
> > was very challenging but completely doable. The big thing was the items
> > that none of the prep material out there covers in-depth, including
> > Cisco own SRND (it makes a good start). Sort of got blindsided by those
> > items.
> >
> > Some hints:
> >
> > Do not waste too much time or money with the prep material from anyone
> > at this point, they still have not got it together.
> > Read the SRND word for word several times!!!
> > If a rack provider cannot get the CUE loaded with CUCM version of the
> > software do not buy from them!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Find the advanced dial plan presentation from Networkers 2009 and study
> > like it was your bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Keep in mind 60% of the material from IPexpert, CCbootcamb, and
> > Internetwork Expert will help, but is not complete enough especially in
> > the advanced dial plan area and CUE with CUCM. I came close but could
> > have used more study material on the dial plan, did not see the
> > Networkers presentation until the day after I came back from my test.
> >
> > Sean Davis, CCVP(Will be CCIE on Sept 3^rd )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
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