i have read this note but it didn't stated that the router can provide clock
without master command , in here we have one ntp source in our network which
is the HQ (from all the network entities ) and HQ is getting clock from
external NTP ,

Ray , can you please try what guys suggest here ?

Ash

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We should not use "ntp master" on HQ router.  This command is only needed
> if the router cannot reach any NTP source.  Since the HQ router can reach
> the backbone (PSTN) router, it does not require "ntp master".
>
> If you look at the link, you'll notice this note:
>
> ===========
> Use this command with extreme caution. It is very easy to override valid
> time sources using this command, especially if a low stratum number is
> configured. Configuring multiple machines in the same network with the *ntp
> master* command can cause instability in timekeeping if the machines do
> not agree on the time.
> ===========
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Ashraf Ayyash <ash.ayy...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all ,
>>
>>  if we took off the master command we will not be able to sync our
>> internal network entities to the HQ router , please feel free to correct me
>> if i am wrong ,
>>
>> the output you gave Ray for the first email and the config say that you
>> have added the master command before you synced with the external ntp
>> and so your internal router got the highest level ,
>>
>> to get rid of this you can configure the ntp server and then make sure
>> that you are synced and then use the master command with lower *stratum
>> level
>> and this should do the trick for you ,
>>
>> below the link :
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_1/configfun/configuration/guide/fcd303.html#wp1004877
>>
>> Ash
>> *
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Ray <jonha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i found the issue , i took out the ntp master and then shut down/ no shut
>>> my f0/0 connecting to the UTC server, and the clock was syncing as below..
>>> good
>>>
>>>
>>> hq#sh ntp ass
>>>
>>>   address         ref clock       st   when   poll reach  delay  offset
>>> disp
>>> *~157.26.1.100    127.127.1.1     15     63     64   377  0.000 2901006
>>>  3.641
>>>  * sys.peer, # selected, + candidate, - outlyer, x falseticker, ~
>>> configured
>>>
>>> hq#sho run | s ntp
>>> ntp source Loopback0
>>> ntp server 157.26.1.100
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 9/17/11, Marko Milivojevic <mar...@ipexpert.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Marko Milivojevic <mar...@ipexpert.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp
>>> To: "Ray" <jonha...@yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: "ccie voice" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 11:44 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Why did you configure your router to be NTP master? When you did that,
>>> on which stratum did your router operate? If it was less than 15, will
>>> it sync to a server on stratum 15?
>>>
>>> Answer these questions and you'll know the answer to yours :-)
>>>
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>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 18:14, Ray 
>>> <jonha...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jonha...@yahoo.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > looking at the sho ntp ass below and the config below. I could not make
>>> the
>>> > Hq router syn its time from 1567.26.1.100. this question troubled me
>>> when i
>>> > took the exams. any idea!!!!!!!.. the UTC server at 157.26.1.100 was
>>> set to
>>> > stratum 15 i think... so how can u make HQ syn time from the UTC
>>> server... I
>>> > was confused  here..
>>> > ntp source Loopback0
>>> > ntp master
>>> > ntp server 157.26.1.100
>>> >
>>> > hq#sho ntp ass
>>> >   address         ref clock       st   when   poll reach  delay  offset
>>> > disp
>>> > *~127.127.1.1     .LOCL.           7     12     16   377  0.000   0.000
>>> >  0.238
>>> >  ~157.26.1.100    78.85.76.76     16     34     64   376  0.000 2901016
>>> >  2.591
>>> >  * sys.peer, # selected, + candidate, - outlyer, x falseticker, ~
>>> configured
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