If this is the case then the address you are pointing to at the pstn is 
incorrect.  If you add the ntp server to the router and do show ntp status the 
router MUST be syncing with an external source or UCM will not sync.  
Furthermore a reboot is not required on UCM or ther router.  Simply add the 
address to UCM and do utils ntp restart from cli.  The key is that the ntp 
source the router is syncing with must be valid.  

Sent from my iPhone 4.

On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Ray <jonha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ntp is not slow when i put the ntp master command on HQ router and the cucm 
> syn right the way. i took off the ntp master from the hq and only have ntp 
> server and ntp source lo0. and reboot the cucm and the hq. and let it set for 
> 4hrs to 5hrs and the cucm would not syn, but the moment i put the ntp master 
> it syns within 2 mins... you can try it in you lab and let me know.. make 
> sure you reboot the cucm and the hq router...
> 
> From: Justin Barksdale <jus...@barksdale.net>
> To: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp
> 
> NTP is by nature slow.  An earlier post pointed out the correct method.  If 
> the question wants you to sync hq with the pstn and then ccm with hq then the 
> ntp master command will break this requirement.  All that is required on the 
> HQ router is ntp server x.x.x.x
> 
> This is also mentioned in Vic's class class as well as Cisco documentation.  
> The important key here is that the ntp master command can cause you to 
> override a valid external time source and thus can be very dangerous.  As 
> long as the ntp server command points to a valid and reachable ntp source 
> then the hq router will sync and you WILL be able to sync ucm without the ntp 
> master command.
> 
> Justin Barksdale
> CCIE# 29866
> Voice
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4.  Please excuse any typos.
> 
> On Sep 18, 2011, at 7:39 PM, ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com wrote:
> 
> > Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp
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