Thank you Michael , lets wait for Ray to check the lab results for this
Ash

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Take a look at this link:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_1/configfun/configuration/guide/fcd303.html#wp1001926
>
> The two examples explain when you'll need "ntp master".
>
> Hope this helps!
> Michael
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Ashraf Ayyash <ash.ayy...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> i have read this note but it didn't stated that the router can provide
>> clock without master command , in here we have one ntp source in our network
>> which is the HQ (from all the network entities ) and HQ is getting clock
>> from external NTP ,
>>
>> Ray , can you please try what guys suggest here ?
>>
>> Ash
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael Luo <hout...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We should not use "ntp master" on HQ router.  This command is only needed
>>> if the router cannot reach any NTP source.  Since the HQ router can reach
>>> the backbone (PSTN) router, it does not require "ntp master".
>>>
>>> If you look at the link, you'll notice this note:
>>>
>>> ===========
>>> Use this command with extreme caution. It is very easy to override valid
>>> time sources using this command, especially if a low stratum number is
>>> configured. Configuring multiple machines in the same network with the *ntp
>>> master* command can cause instability in timekeeping if the machines do
>>> not agree on the time.
>>> ===========
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Ashraf Ayyash <ash.ayy...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all ,
>>>>
>>>>  if we took off the master command we will not be able to sync our
>>>> internal network entities to the HQ router , please feel free to correct me
>>>> if i am wrong ,
>>>>
>>>> the output you gave Ray for the first email and the config say that you
>>>> have added the master command before you synced with the external ntp
>>>> and so your internal router got the highest level ,
>>>>
>>>> to get rid of this you can configure the ntp server and then make sure
>>>> that you are synced and then use the master command with lower *stratum
>>>> level
>>>> and this should do the trick for you ,
>>>>
>>>> below the link :
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_1/configfun/configuration/guide/fcd303.html#wp1004877
>>>>
>>>> Ash
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Ray <jonha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i found the issue , i took out the ntp master and then shut down/ no
>>>>> shut my f0/0 connecting to the UTC server, and the clock was syncing as
>>>>> below.. good
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hq#sh ntp ass
>>>>>
>>>>>   address         ref clock       st   when   poll reach  delay  offset
>>>>>   disp
>>>>> *~157.26.1.100    127.127.1.1     15     63     64   377  0.000 2901006
>>>>>  3.641
>>>>>  * sys.peer, # selected, + candidate, - outlyer, x falseticker, ~
>>>>> configured
>>>>>
>>>>> hq#sho run | s ntp
>>>>> ntp source Loopback0
>>>>> ntp server 157.26.1.100
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Sat, 9/17/11, Marko Milivojevic <mar...@ipexpert.com>* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Marko Milivojevic <mar...@ipexpert.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ntp
>>>>> To: "Ray" <jonha...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> Cc: "ccie voice" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 11:44 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did you configure your router to be NTP master? When you did that,
>>>>> on which stratum did your router operate? If it was less than 15, will
>>>>> it sync to a server on stratum 15?
>>>>>
>>>>> Answer these questions and you'll know the answer to yours :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 18:14, Ray 
>>>>> <jonha...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jonha...@yahoo.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > looking at the sho ntp ass below and the config below. I could not
>>>>> make the
>>>>> > Hq router syn its time from 1567.26.1.100. this question troubled me
>>>>> when i
>>>>> > took the exams. any idea!!!!!!!.. the UTC server at 157.26.1.100 was
>>>>> set to
>>>>> > stratum 15 i think... so how can u make HQ syn time from the UTC
>>>>> server... I
>>>>> > was confused  here..
>>>>> > ntp source Loopback0
>>>>> > ntp master
>>>>> > ntp server 157.26.1.100
>>>>> >
>>>>> > hq#sho ntp ass
>>>>> >   address         ref clock       st   when   poll reach  delay
>>>>>  offset
>>>>> > disp
>>>>> > *~127.127.1.1     .LOCL.           7     12     16   377  0.000
>>>>> 0.000
>>>>> >  0.238
>>>>> >  ~157.26.1.100    78.85.76.76     16     34     64   376  0.000
>>>>> 2901016
>>>>> >  2.591
>>>>> >  * sys.peer, # selected, + candidate, - outlyer, x falseticker, ~
>>>>> configured
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