Hi Garib Does this answer your question (see final paragraph):
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v448/n7154/full/nature06102.html Best -- Ian > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On > Behalf Of Garib Murshudov > Sent: 18 March 2009 16:42 > To: Herbert J. Bernstein > Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] images > > Dear all > > Before going into and trying to find a technical solution to the > problem it would be good if decide if we need images. As far as I know > if we face with a problem to solve and we know that it is necessary to > solve then we find technical solution to the problem (either from > other fields or we find our own solution with some elements of > reinvention of new MX wheels). > > Do we need images to store? What kind of information we can extract > from images that we cannot from amplitudes, intensities (even > unmerged)? Does anybody have a convincing argument for favour of images? > > > regards > Garib > > > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 16:32, Herbert J. Bernstein wrote: > > > Actually the radiologists who manage CT and PET scans of brains do > > have > > a solution, called DICOM, see http://medical.nema.org/. If we work > > together as a community we should be able to do as well as the > > rocket scientists and the brain surgeons' radiologists, perhaps even > > better. -- Herbert > > > > ===================================================== > > Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science > > Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 > > Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 > > > > +1-631-244-3035 > > y...@dowling.edu > > ===================================================== > > > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Jacob Keller wrote: > > > >> Apparently it DOES take a rocket scientist to solve this problem. > >> Maybe the brain surgeons also have a solution? > >> > >> JPK > >> > >> ******************************************* > >> Jacob Pearson Keller > >> Northwestern University > >> Medical Scientist Training Program > >> Dallos Laboratory > >> F. Searle 1-240 > >> 2240 Campus Drive > >> Evanston IL 60208 > >> lab: 847.491.2438 > >> cel: 773.608.9185 > >> email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu > >> ******************************************* > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaas Decanniere" > <klaas.decanni...@vub.ac.be > >> > > >> To: <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:36 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] images > >> > >> > >>> Herbert J. Bernstein wrote: > >>> Other sciences have struggled with this and seem to have found an > >>> answer. > >>> Have e.g. a look at http://heasarc.nasa.gov/docs/heasarc/fits.html > >>> kind regards, > >>> Klaas > >>>> > >>>> This is a good time to start a major crystallogrpahic image > >>>> archiving effort. Money may well be available now that will not be > >>>> avialable six month from now, and we have good, if not perfect, > >>>> solutions available for many, if not all, of the technical issues > >>>> involved. Is it really wise to let this opportunity pass us by? > >>>>>> The deposition of images would be possible providing some > >>>>>> consistent > >>>>>> imagecif format was agreed. > >>>>>> This would of course be of great use to developers for certain > >>>>>> pathological cases, but not I suspect much value to the user > >>>>>> community - I down load structure factors all the time for test > >>>>>> purposes but I probably would not bother to go through the data > >>>>>> processing, and unless there were extensive notes associated with > >>>>>> each set of images I suspect it would be hard to reproduce > >>>>>> sensible > >>>>>> results. > >> > > Disclaimer This communication is confidential and may contain privileged information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been sent. If you are not the intended recipient you must not review, use, disclose, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon it. 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