Hi Careina,

Some other things to check for:

Where did you measure the crystal, on a home source or at a synchrotron? if
at a synchrotron, try to put bit more flux and see whether you see any
diffraction?
Also check the beam and your crystal alignment.

Rangana


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Andreas Forster <docandr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Careina,
>
> if you don't have grey hair (available in the lab), you can still mount
> crystals at room temperature.  With a MiTeGen RT kit, very little skill is
> required to test crystal diffraction or even collect entire data sets at
> room temperature.
> https://www.mitegen.com/product/micrort-room-temperature-starter-kits/
>
> All best.
>
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Harry Powell <0000193323b1e616-dmarc-
> requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> One other thing to try that someone with grey hair in your lab might know
>> about - mount a "crystal" in a capillary and see if it diffracts at room
>> temp. As long as you have a source and detector in your home lab, there's
>> no need to go to a synchrotron and use their in situ facilities.
>>
>> There are those of us who would contend that if your sample doesn't
>> diffract, then it isn't a crystal, no matter how nice it looks (though it
>> might have been one once...)!
>>
>> Harry
>> --
>> Dr Harry Powell
>> Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic
>> Computing)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Aug 2018, at 11:14, Elspeth Garman wrote:
>>
>> Yes, essential to test at room temperature without changing their buffer
>> medium before getting worried!
>> If they don’t diffract at RT, they are very very unlikely to diffract at
>> cryotemperatures, whatever you do to them before hand!
>> Best wishes
>> Elspeth
>>
>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf
>> Of *Hughes, Jon
>> *Sent:* 14 August 2018 11:11
>> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(
>>
>> maybe it's the cryobuffer that's the problem (you didn't mention it). you
>> could try to fish the crystals with minimal liquid attached by mounting
>> them in oil rather than a cryobuffer. or you could test the native
>> diffraction "in situ" (at room temperature in the drop): quite a few
>> beamlines offer this possibility these days.
>> best
>> jon
>>
>> *Von:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *Im Auftrag von *Careina Edgooms
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 14. August 2018 11:59
>> *An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Betreff:* [ccp4bb] crystals that dont diffract :( :(
>>
>> I got the most beautiful crystals I have ever seen and they don't
>> diffract at all. Not poor diffraction, NO diffraction. Anyone know why this
>> could be and how I can go about fixing it? I had three beautiful crystals
>> and not one diffracted. I did leave them in the drop for about 3 weeks
>> before harvesting and in liquid nitrogen for about a month before
>> diffracting. Could that be a factor? If I regrew more beautiful crystals
>> and diffracted straight away could that help?
>> Careina
>>
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