true. But if you are talking ideals, why even mention that other people are afraid of him? In my opinion the sweet and condescending stereotypes are just as toxic. Like being told in a meeting to go home and take care of the children.
Dana On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:12:29 -0600, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or, just as easily - see that man over there? That's Bob. He lost his > job when the factory closed. He's nice. Some people are afraid of him, > but you shouldn't be. Want to say hi to Bob? > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:52:28 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > see this stuffed bear? that's Paddington. See that man over there? > > that's someone you don't want to run into in a dark alley. > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:36:35 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Really? How do you come up with that? I mean, they're all pretty > > > innocuous names. Dang, I wish I could remember them. But, I know the > > > general feeling I got was "that's cute." I guess I don't see how > > > naming turns into some sort of elitist behavior. > > > > > > In our house, even the poor dog has been demoted. She's now "da-doog" > > > or "woof" instead of her proper name (Scully). Of course, we always > > > called her "woof-tooth" as a term of endearment. So, I could see why > > > that would be confusing. > > > > > > And, we do jokingly call one horse that Soren has "Stiffy" as it's > > > made to support 140 pounds of child sitting on it's back, doing > > > nothing. Standing there. Stiff. (Course, we're not seriously naming it > > > Stiffy.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:15:55 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hmm. Not far from there to "not our kind of people" if you ask me. If > > > > the child had named the toys himself it would be different. By the > > > > way, my daughter calls our dog "Hayley" or more usually "puppy." > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:02:48 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yep, all the toys that were animalistic or humanistic had names. > > > > > Grandma, mom and dad seem to be the namers. The kid is only 20 months, > > > > > so I'm not sure how well he gets the concept of name (Puffy) vs. word > > > > > for object (the puffer fish). *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:53:47 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Question - you are saying that your friend's child's toys all had > > > > > > names? Who named them? The child, or the parent? If the parent named > > > > > > the child's toys, that strikes me as over-control. But what do I > > > > > > know? > > > > > > I call our dog "the dog" or occasionally "the damn dog." > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:33:24 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > You know, I was just thinking about this the other day. My son > > > > > > > has all > > > > > > > sorts of stuffed toys and dolls and such. The duck is "duck." The > > > > > > > baby > > > > > > > is "baby." The horse is "horse." Etc. I went over to a friends and > > > > > > > every thing there was named (not that I remember any of the > > > > > > > names). > > > > > > > So, I got to thinking - are we weird? We haven't given any of his > > > > > > > things names. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hadn't thought of it in terms of Eastern/Western philosophies. > > > > > > > But, > > > > > > > we are much more "let it be" than the neighbors. Hm.... maybe > > > > > > > we're > > > > > > > more zen than we knew. ;) Of course, my inital thought was that > > > > > > > we're > > > > > > > bad parents who don't engender enough tender caring to even bother > > > > > > > giving his toys names! :P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:56:42 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Kevin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Contrast that with Zen Buddhism that is less about controlling > > > > > > > > > and labelling and more about accepting things as they come. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whoa - that's good. If you'd like to expand on that, I'd like > > > > > > > > to hear > > > > > > > > it. It's a perspective I hadn't considered before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:135035 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
