On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:46:01 -0400, Angel Stewart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great.
> 
> So what you are saying is to f*** with it all, let Racism continue.
> If White men want to segregate and have Black toilets, and prevent Black 
> people from sitting on the bus, so be it.

nope, not one bit.

> If White Men owning businesses want to dictate that Non Whites cannot be 
> served there, then so be it. That should be allowed to
> continue.

nope, not one bit.

> 
> In this one email you've quite clearly stated your stance on the entire Civil 
> Rights movement in the United States. You seem to be
> one of those that think it was a load of BS and trampling on the rights of 
> White Men everywhere to be as racist as everyone else.

nope. not one bit.

> 
> If White owned businesses do not wish to hire Non White people then so be it. 
> Let it continue.

if the owner of that company wants to run his company that way... how
can ANYONE tell him different?

> 
> There's no need for the government to mandate that Non Whites have rights. We 
> don't need governmentally mandated programs that goes
> against people's nature. If the nature of the White American is to be as 
> racist as his forefathers centuries ago then so be it.

non-whites are racist motherfuckers as well.  why make me and other
white people suffer?  i have personally been the subject of racism in
my direction... not my dad. me.  ive spent many many years in a
predominantly black setting, where im the outcast, the stranger, and
the one who is persecuted against.

> Nothing's going to be solved by forcing the White Man to hire someone Non 
> White. All this will achieve is 98% White instead of 100%.
> Why not go for the whole pie instead of a stupid government mandate forcing a 
> measly 2% gain?

why not just hire people regardless of color.  as i would.  see, you
are assuming that i dont like people due to the color of their skin. 
Gel, im the blackest white person you might ever meet.  so please do
not assume any longer.

> 
> Why hinder the Nature of people? Racism should be allowed to continue.
> There should not be any mandate to equality is what you are saying in this 
> email.

again, assuming alot here, i dont condone racism, as i dont condone
child rape.  Gel, im usually the first person wherever i am to speak
out and do things to berate social injustice based on race.  I LOVE
BLACK PEOPLE.  I LOVE BROWN PEOPLE.

> 
> In this email you are saying that Racism is A-Ok and should not be 
> controlled, equality should not be mandated. You are in fact
> going completely against your nation's constitution and its spirit of 
> Equality, Freedom and Liberty.

when did i EVER say racism was OK?  come on man.  dont put words in my mouth.

> 
> I suppose you will argue that the White man should have the Freedom to be 
> Racist and deny the established civil rights of the Non
> Whites (well I suppose we know what you think of that whole 'Civil Rights' 
> thing anyway.Actually I suppose this email implies that
> the Non Whites have as much freedom as they want, as long as it doesn't 
> affect the rights of the White Man to be racial.

dude.  im not sure what email you read.  but i can imagine it wasnt
mine.  either that or you are reading into it tooo much.  i hate
racism.  my first email address in 1993 was [EMAIL PROTECTED]  i hate
it.  but i also hate the notion that its a white black issue.  its
also a black white issue.  prejudice breeds racism.

> 
> You said that Any other group would do the same thing, so you are saying that 
> Blacks would hire Blacks because they are black,
> Hispanics would hire Hispanics because they are Hispanic, therefore there's 
> nothing wrong with White men hiring other White Men.I
> don't think you could have made a more apathetic,bigoted statement if that 
> had been your intention, and I'm sure it wasn't...but
> that's the way it turned out.

no.  what i was elluding to, was this... ive been subjected to what is
really wrongly coined as "reverse racism" as if there is a forward
racism.  but anyway... it goes both fucking ways... and thats what my
problem is.  in 1994 i had an idea to start the NAAAP.  if we dont
blur the color lines, we will never get farther... never.

> 
> If White Men want to continue to subjugate and marginalise other ethnicities 
> as they have for centuries past, then let them, since
> it happens everywhere anyway.Spoken like a true....what?Anyone care to finish 
> the sentence?

a true what?  what do you need to call me?  go ahead, i have thick
fucking skin friend.  call me nigger lover, go right ahead, wouldnt be
the first time, ive been called that... call me whatever you want... 
i dont approve of nor condone racism, or marginalizing anyone for the
color of their skin.... never have, never will.   but as long as there
are programs to promote people of skin color other than mine, then im
being marginalized right?

> 
> Tell me something Tony, do you think your thinking represents the Majority of 
> White America? Based on your own interactions with
> your peer group?

my peer group?  my 50 or so non-white friends, and the other 200
hundred or so close white friends of mine, who all share everything
with people of many colors?  should i ask them? or are you done
fucking assuming here?

> 
> -Gel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:48:00 -0400, Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> and i bet $1000 that an african american owned firm would behave the same 
> fucking way.  Racism and prejudice goes both ways.  the
> last thing we need are governmentally mandated programs that hinder the 
> nature of people from shaking out their own problems.
> 
> Gel, in your country, would i be a minority?
> 
> slavery and racial exploitation happens EVERYWHERE, HAS HAPPENED EVERYWHERE, 
> and will continue to happen EVERYWHERE regardless of
> the stupid programs that idiots with agendas come up with.  there is nothign 
> that will solve this NOTHING.
> 
> 
> 

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