> Dana wrote:
> what numbers?  You posted a list. Your logic appears to be that if
> there is at least one woman CEO, then women are not discriminated
> against. And the same for minorities!
> 

Both you and Gel are not understanding what I'm saying.  I am not
saying that America is fair and discrimination free - it isn't, and it
never will be.  We are in complete agreement about that.

What I'm saying is that if you're a minority in this country, and
willing to traverse roadblocks, you can go to a top school and get a
top job.  Period.  I know people that've done it, I've done it, my
wife has done it, and many, many others have done it.

I know people that've moved here at 40, are black, and not spoken a
word of english.  10 years after coming to America they're top people
in their field.

If you're committed to, say, being a partner at a top law firm, you
can be.  You may face discrimination along the way, you may have to go
to school B instead of school A, but you'll get it done if you're
committed.  If some moron tells you to take a personality test or says
you're too dumb to succeed, leave.  You to a different firm, go to a
different school.

The bottom line is, if it's not race or sex, it'll be weight.  They
don't like you because you're too fat.  Or too skinny.  Or too short. 
Or too tall.  Or have red hair.  Or have have curly hair.  Or speak
too softly.  Or too loudly.  Or they don't like your family.  Or it's
Tuesday.  Or whatever.

You can be a victim, or you can achieve your goals.  It's your choice.

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