Right and these are cultural values, yes? Do they make the people who hold them any less intelligent? I say no. Verbal intelligence is only one type of intelligence (to take an example that I do not claim has any cultural links). Respect for education is indedendent of actual smarts, right? I am sure we all know plenty of intelligent uneducated people.
To answer your first question, I was trying to illustrate this point by saying that a child who recently immigrated from Mexico might boggle at a fractions question that uses pizza slices, simply because he has never seen a pizza. I sure don't remember seeing one when I was in Mexico. That was an example I made up, but I thought it illustrated my point. Gruss said only a stupid child would have a problem with thequestion, thus bringing us to tamales. I wasn't thinking so much about being able to list the ingredients as knowing what it looks like, which is implicit in a pizza question. Let me see if I can make up an example that illustrates my point. Dinner, you are banned from chiming in :) Read the text then answer the questions. Chose the *best* answer. "Ya Tay" said Begay. "You want to come to the 49 with me?" "No, I have to go home. Sam killed a fox yesterday. Besides, Mama is cooking up some tamales and Joseph said he'd go out into the field for her. I'll stop off at Blake's then pick the stuff up from Joseph on the way there. 1. The second speaker is a) female b) male c) not enough information is provided 2. Sam is a a) horse b) dog c) child d) woman e) not enough information is provided. 3. Begay is headed to a) a gas station b) a dance c) a fast-food place d) a demonstration e) not enough information is provided 4. Begay is a) Asian b) Caucasian c) Native American d) African American e) not enough information is provided. 5. This conversation takes place in: a) April b) October c) July d) December e) not enough information is provided 6.Is the second speaker hungry? a) yes b) no c) maybe d) not enough information is provided 7. What does Joseph have for Mama? a) yucca b) herbs c) corn d) pinon e) not enough information is provided On 10/28/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > really? What if I asked you about the ingredients for a tamale? > > > > > > > > > > Being that both sides of my family hail from Mosquero, NM I think I'd > > > probably pass :) > > > > How convenient. Especially when you've gone on at great length about > > your backgound of urban poverty. But fine, suppose that's true -- What > > about every else here whose family doesn't -- are they stupid? Are you > > really saying there is no such thing as cultural bias in an IQ test? > > I'm coming into this thread a little late but I have to ask - what the > heck does the ability to recite the components of a recipe have to do > with IQ? > > On the point of cultural bias, I'll through this little nugget out - > though I'm not sure if it's been covered. There are cultures, even in > the US, where higher education is looked down upon. My mother works > to promote college programs in rural Oklahoma, pointing prospective > students to grants and scholarships they can qualify for if only they > apply. > > Amazingly enough there are several areas where the parents are more > likely to be in opposition comes from family, either because the child > would be moving away from the "family business" or out of their direct > sphere of influence. > > There is also a disregard that some without high school or college > have for family members who do. I could cite examples in my own > family where this is the case but will refrain for a couple of > reasons. Suffice to say that I've heard, "did you have to go to > college to learn that?" > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:245353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
