you are sort of misreading. Mind you I probably was not all that clear -- comes of skimming email and interjecting comments while at work. Scenario was meant to apply specifically to the invasion of Iraq. There is no question that we are the cause of the invasion of Iraq. We did it and nobody had a gun to our heads.
I think you are reading it to mean the on-going Middle East everything, and yes, that is a much more complicated question. Mind you, I do not think there are any wholly innocent parties there either. On Jan 28, 2008 6:56 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really hate to say this but your 1000% wrong. We did not shape this > scenario. Those who preach and perform violent, terrorist Islam have been > doing so since before America was their excuse or even existed. To say that > we're the cause is to ignore history. > Yes, there is cause for the Arab world to be upset with us but just as much > so with almost everyone else. We're not new in taking economic advantage > over the Arab world and those who came before us (including other Arab > countries) have been far worse than us. We're not new in invading Iraq or > any other Arab country. Go down the list from their own brothers to the > Mongols. > We're just the biggest around and therefore we are the excuse used for the > terrorists to attack. > > Now if I'm misreading you when you say "we shaped the scenario" and you > don't mean that we're the cause of this deadly hate then please let me know > how you did intend me to read it. > > > On Jan 28, 2008 5:55 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > lost cause = there is no way to win. Tragic, since we shaped the > > scenario ourselves, but I do not see any possibility of a happy > > outcome, and meanwhile bloodshed continues. > > > > On Jan 28, 2008 11:12 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Define lost cause for me Dana. > > > > > > > > > Dana wrote: > > > > um... I have never listened to Air America. So I would have to take > > > > your word for that, though I don't see the relevance. > > > > > > > > I don't think the argument ever was that Spain deserved what it got. > > > > That is just your personal red herring. Here is what I am saying -- an > > > > anonymous source says there were terrorist threats in Spain. This may > > > > be possible and may even true. It is even possible that the source is > > > > right about that. None of this say the government of Spain was wrong > > > > to recognize a lost cause when it saw one. I personally would have > > > > preferred that they do it in a way that avoided the attacks being > > > > linked to their withdrawal, but it's their country. > > > > > > > > Shame they don't teach critical thinking is schools any more. For all > > > > we know Chertoff was having hunches again and this led to the arrest > > > > of another waiter or two... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2008 8:43 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Liberal conclusions. And I mean that in more than one way. :) > > > >> > > > >> I find it interesting that you are quickly redirecting us away from > > the > > > >> original indefensible argument about Spain somehow "deserving what > > they > > > >> got". I've noticed this pattern before, very often on Air America. > > > >> > > > >> Do you really think that Spain deserves to be attacked by terrorist > > > >> group(s) who don't represent any country Spain ever stepped foot > > into? > > > >> > > > >> Dana wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> you did ;) Apparently stuff does apparently eventually sink in. So > > > >>> there is hope. But, next question, who does Cameron think we are > > > >>> fighting in Iraq? And why? > > > >>> > > > >>> On Jan 27, 2008 8:05 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> whoa! did I just hear you say Al Qaeda has nothing to do with > > Iraq! :) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> but seriously, didn't the U.S., a third party, rush into Kuwait > > > >>>> whenever Iraq invaded? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:252254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
