On Jan 29, 2008 1:55 PM, Robert Munn wrote:

> I see that as the view of people who are emotionally invested in opposing
> the President; it is a view that is simply not supported by the facts. The
> war in Iraq was not pre-determined.



(a) I don't oppose the President, per se.  And I most certainly do not have
an emotional investment in it.  As a matter of fact, on 9/11/2001 I told my
wife that I wished I could pass a physical, and I would sign up for the
military myself.

(b) Facts suggest strongly that GW had his heart set on taking out Saddam
the day an attempt was made on his daddy's life.  Understandable?  Yes.
Should it allow you to warp your views to the point that you have to twist
and contort the facts so that they support your idea?  No.



> Saddam could have come clean and
> cooperated with the UN Security Council, but he thought he could bluff his
> way out of the mess. Ironically, his outstandingly successful bluff about
> having WMD was what sealed his fate.



I agree with that, for the most part.  However, all GW needed to do was talk
to his daddy about it.  At least his dad was intelligent enough to
understand that it was in our best interest to leave Saddam in power.  After
all, his bluffing and his ruthless acts actually brought a certain amount of
stability to the region.  You can hardly say there is stability of any sort
there now, because there clearly is not.


The issue of 9/11 and the Iraq War is not causality, it is the deeply
> paranoid mindset that the attacks created inside the U.S. government. In
> one
> day, we went from thinking about issues like Iraq, Afghanistan, the USS
> Cole
> bombing, etc.  in regional terms to thinking about them in terms of how
> events "over there" could trigger further attacks on our shores. 9/11, as
> G
> indicted for himself, put most of the country in a mood to stomp the guts
> out of our enemies. The US was this wounded giant, casting around for any
> enemy to stomp. Saddam, already an enemy of the US, made the terrible
> miscalculation of poking the wounded giant in the eye, and he got stomped
> for it.
>


I also mostly agree with this.  But it still does not change the fact that
GW had every intention of going in and taking out Saddam long before 9/11.


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