ummm, we should have went to war that very day. You don't think that attempting to assassinate a president (sitting or former) is an act of war?
Matt Quackenbush wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 1:55 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> I see that as the view of people who are emotionally invested in opposing >> the President; it is a view that is simply not supported by the facts. The >> war in Iraq was not pre-determined. > > > > (a) I don't oppose the President, per se. And I most certainly do not have > an emotional investment in it. As a matter of fact, on 9/11/2001 I told my > wife that I wished I could pass a physical, and I would sign up for the > military myself. > > (b) Facts suggest strongly that GW had his heart set on taking out Saddam > the day an attempt was made on his daddy's life. Understandable? Yes. > Should it allow you to warp your views to the point that you have to twist > and contort the facts so that they support your idea? No. > > > >> Saddam could have come clean and >> cooperated with the UN Security Council, but he thought he could bluff his >> way out of the mess. Ironically, his outstandingly successful bluff about >> having WMD was what sealed his fate. > > > > I agree with that, for the most part. However, all GW needed to do was talk > to his daddy about it. At least his dad was intelligent enough to > understand that it was in our best interest to leave Saddam in power. After > all, his bluffing and his ruthless acts actually brought a certain amount of > stability to the region. You can hardly say there is stability of any sort > there now, because there clearly is not. > > > The issue of 9/11 and the Iraq War is not causality, it is the deeply >> paranoid mindset that the attacks created inside the U.S. government. In >> one >> day, we went from thinking about issues like Iraq, Afghanistan, the USS >> Cole >> bombing, etc. in regional terms to thinking about them in terms of how >> events "over there" could trigger further attacks on our shores. 9/11, as >> G >> indicted for himself, put most of the country in a mood to stomp the guts >> out of our enemies. The US was this wounded giant, casting around for any >> enemy to stomp. Saddam, already an enemy of the US, made the terrible >> miscalculation of poking the wounded giant in the eye, and he got stomped >> for it. >> > > > I also mostly agree with this. But it still does not change the fact that > GW had every intention of going in and taking out Saddam long before 9/11. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:252426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5