Taxes provide a few things for the country.  Among them are providing 
for things like a common defense and infrastructure, which benefit 
everyone (in theory) equally.  Taxes also provide help to those who are 
less fortunate.  These are generally called social programs, and those 
social programs are pretty much all subsidies of one form or another.  
Also, by taxing one group more than another, that is also one group 
subsidizing the tax payments of others.  It's a double subsidy really, 
since those people are more likely to benefit from the social programs 
as well.

I'm guessing your are denying that taxes are a form of subsidy because 
that's so often used as a "dirty word" to label something that's 
negative.  Even after the very definition of the word included "taxes" 
in it.  I'm actually just using it in a very factual way - you can draw 
positive of negative connotations from it any way you'd like.

As far as knowing anything about economics - if you'd like to pull out 
credentials we can.  I may have brought this up in a past thread but I 
have a 4 year college degree in Finance with a minor in Economics.  I've 
read the entire Fairtax book cover to cover, I read the Economist 
Magazine regularly and up until recently was a subscriber to it.  I also 
read the Wall Street Journal on occasion, though not as regularly as I 
use to.  I tend to ignore political and talk show rhetoric because it's 
usually what someone wants to hear, not what is necessarily valid.  I 
have a pretty firm grasp on academic perspectives on how policy will 
effect the national and global economy, and those are the primary 
information sources for economic information.  Your turn.

-Cameron

Dana wrote:
> I am not sure why Adam thinks you are arguing intelligently. To me it
> seems as though I am having a discussion about economics with someone
> who knows nothing about the subject and does not want to learn. I do
> not think that a progressive tax rate is generally considered a
> subsidy. But supposing it was:
>   


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