I know the economy is the next knee-jerker, but I was actually still on the freedom bit. :-)
Losing our liberties (no-knock, warrant-less searches, domestic spying, due process wankery) and our morals (torture is o.k. if our lawyers say so, a "strike first" military, trading individual freedoms for a perceived group safety, etc.). Can't take a damn plane without an anal search, building a "wall" to keep immigrants out, etc.. "if you don't do X, the ter'rists 'il git ya", etc.. That's the scary stuff to me. Money is important and all, but not that important. :-) I agree about China. Heh. It is sad to see folks who'd usually stay in the states for a bit, high-tail it to other countries, just cuz of the weak $. Not that it isn't a pain in the ass just to get into the country these days. The red tape probably makes us safer too, in someones mind. -den -- "What we fear comes to pass more speedily than what we hope." ---- Publilius Syrus - Moral Sayings (1st C B.C.) On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you mean by losing it? Our economy? That's our own damn fault, as we > have discussed many times. Social Security and Medicare are going to > bankrupt us, and through our anti-immigrant policy we are keeping the very > people who could help feed the system well into this century out of the > system. > > In the short run, the weak dollar is inevitable, and perhaps even good, > because it will help us get back in the business of selling our goods and > services to other countries. China in particular is taking it on the chin > for oil and other commodities right now by not re-evaluating their currency > against the dollar, but they feel they need to stay more or less close to > the dollar to keep from losing their trade advantage with the U.S. India has > let the rupee appreciate significantly against the dollar, so they are not > getting walloped as much in the international commodities markets as China, > but at the same time they are hurting their services industry's exports. Of > course, that becomes less important as they develop a domestic market for > services, too. > > Ultimately, the currencies of the biggest economies in the world need to > come into line with each other. The Europeans are staving off the drop in > the euro with a variety of strategies, but in the end they are just putting > off the inevitable pain of dealing with a stronger yen and rupee, among > others. > > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:10 PM, denstar wrote: > > > > > .... > > > For all the bluster about talk about freedom on this list, it seems > > only > > > those of us who already have it are the only ones who deserve it, eh? > > > > I'm more curious about those who don't care that we're losing it over > > here. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:256711 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
