Gel, I swim in the big pool with the adults, you should try it sometime.

Would anyone care to supply a link for evidence of warrant-less wiretapping
where both parties involved in a conversation were in the United States?
Otherwise you are just being blowhards.

There is plenty of information on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy

and I haven't read the whole thing (who has time for all this stuff?) but a
quick scan does not reveal any specific evidence of two parties in the US
being spied on without a warrant.  Are we talking about wiretapping or
something else, like data-mining? The data mining stuff is problematic, but
I am willing to forgive an overreaction by the government in the wake of
9/11. I'll give AT & T, etc a pass on that, as long as the operation gets
judicial and Congressional review and oversight.



On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Vivec  wrote:

> Cognitive dissonance.
>
> To open ones eyes and admit what is happening would shatter too many
> strongly held beliefs and will be too painful. To protect itself, the
> organism indulges in self delusion and rationalisation.
>


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