> I guess I'm not seeing what your point is. For me his point is simple: > > (1.) He says all kinds of shit I don't agree with, but I don't hate him > for it. > 1. as person of power and influence he says all kinds of bat ass shit I don't agree with, but I don't hate him for it. Hell, everyone here has a pastor, priest or rabbi who does the same - spread the blame
> > (2.) He's a long time friend who, besides all the crazy shit he says, > also says some good stuff. > 2. He's a long time friend even though he's been saying crazy and divisive shit for a long time, i'm willing to overlook it for the good he does. -blunt the bad with stories and focus on the good he does even if he says that the pastor works with AIDs victims does he also know the pastor says that AIDs is a CIA plot against the black community? > > (3.) I'm not enough of a chickenshit to disown a friend because I'm > running president. > 3. I'm not willing to break with a friend no matter how backwards and insane he is. that would be chickenshit, not brave. in otherwords, my standing with this person of questionable sanity is a virtue that you should love me for. > > The guy never worked for Obama's campaign, and Obama has said that > without question he rejects, denounces, and disowns the controversial > words. So what's the problem? > In peoples lives there sit figures of authority and influence. A religious person may have a specific religious authority that they go to for advice of a religious and/or moral nature. This person has influence over the man and the influences on a man should be looked at as well as his actions. You can judge a man by the company he keeps is not just a catch-phrase, it's a truth. If Wright brought his crazy talk here we'de be all over him about it loudly and publicly. Obama let it slide. He didn't stop Wright from speaking and influencing others with the 'crazy shit' He didn't remove his wife and children from the influence of a place where the crazy shit was not just spoken but yelled from a podium. He waited till it was a problem and then spoke about it publicly. Maybe I'm reading too much into the words hes using, the ways hes using them and the story hes weaving. To me it looks like a blunt job to take someone of influence and power who happens to be crazy and turn it around and marginalize that crazy by burying it in "you do it to, your pastor/priest,rabbi does it to, my own grandma does it to, its just fierce criticism not crazy". Words mean things and you can use them to blunt any crazy. "This country should be damned and when Jesus comes it'll be destroyed and all whites wiped out" ="I'm critical about the foreign and domestic practices of the current government and if Jesus was here he would reject it, along with its biases against people of color" The first is crazy and the second is a retelling of the first to blunt it. The second may not be as smooth as Obama said it but its what he did in spirit. But back to the topic, theology preached by Wright, the theology that Obama has been exposed to for the last 20 years, the theology that is not one of acceptance - thats what should be looked at to understand whats being said. Use the words spoken, not what people say they mean. Use the source materials, not the rewrites or excerpts that are so often presented. If there's this much controversy over what you think is a nothing issue, why not go to the root of it and find out what people are upset about. Just stay away from Hillery's root. You'll just let Bill loose and no one wants that. ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:257262 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5