Well my response is this.....

BD or the Smith Project maybe 1% of the market. But as a developer
regardless of what size you think our company is, and trust me as a
development house we are very large. Our clients range from the ridiculous
to the most bizarre. But at the end of the day, when we develop some of our
applications we have to take into consideration that 1% of the market.

That was my point, you didn't get it and that's not my fault you can't seem
to grasp reality now is it.

I mean we have had clients where we had to cater for IE5.5+, most of the
time it is IE6+.

But the point I was making got lost in your ignorance, there are browsers
that take up 1% of the market and we need to make sure the application works
on them. Why do you think that could be any different to me wanting to make
sure that my application, works on 1% of the CFML server market?

Or are you really that thick?

And if you think our projects are small, that has nothing to do with it
either. The point is that small or large, if the client wants it working on
that 1% it is not our call it is theirs. The same as it is my call if I want
to release my application and support that so called 1% of CFML engines.

I am really beginning to think you are thick...

You work for an employer, you worry about that. I also work for an employer,
and I will worry about that. But we don't just do clients, we do
applications as a product and a service. We have to take more into
consideration that working for the government, sure you have the rules and
guidelines.

But as application developers, who rely on something for bread and butter.
We have to take everything into consideration, will it work on JBoss, Jrun,
tomcat or even god forbid jetty. 

But at the end of the day it is neither here nor there, my point stands.




-----Original Message-----
From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2008 1:16 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: The BlueDragon Story

IE 6+ and FF, lynx and screen readers.

However we're talking apples and oranges now.  Client side technology 
vs. server side technology.

Is your next argument that they are both basically interpreters?  Well I 
would disagree with that premise, while CFML has been "open sourced" 
it's server was always a proprietary product.  The CFML "standard" 
doesn't meet the same level of oversight as xhtml or ecma script, and 
still the browser manufacturers can't get that right.

It is for this very reason that larger clients tend to stay away from 
the third party products preferring to stay with the platform that has 
the history and support associated with Allaire, Macromedia and now 
Adobe.  You know Adobe, the second largest software company in the world.

I'm sorry that not all of us work for such small obviously 
inconsequential development projects, thats how you'd put it if your 
were writing for the other side right?  Some of us have to actually 
think about product life, commercial support, security validation (NIST, 
NSA, DISA) and the stability not only of the application server, but of 
the organization that provides the server.


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