While I agree with Morgan's statement, I did not orginate the idea in the discussion, and yet a 3rd time you dishonestly attribute that to me. I started name called? I believe you started that with calling me intolerant and uneducated. Nice try. At least my kids are taught honesty and honor.
Eric -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling..... What else is funny is I thought we were discussing it. You expressed an opinion, based on 'facts'. I provided information that refuted those 'facts'. It stopped being a discussion when you started the name calling. Maybe its a good thing your kids will learn how to 'socialize' from those at school and not at home. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I dont think Dana and Scott are interested in discussing this with people > that disagree with them. They would rather act like pompous asses whose pet > idea can't be wrong since that might make them wrong....and we can't let > that happen. They remind me of fundamentalists who have a monopoly on the > right thing (tm) and anyone who disagrees is automatically wrong or > intolerant or uneducated. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:19 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling..... > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. My comment was fairly simple > "interesting numbers where did you get them? pull them from something > that agrees with your own biases? " > > While "pull them from something that agrees with your own biases? " > appears to be a bit over the top, it nowhere near justifies your going > ballistic. As I said all I wanted was your source so I could judge for > myself. > > As far as I can see, you're either unable or unwilling to provide a > source your your numbers. So what do I conclude from that, aside from > your uncalled for b*tchiness? > > So it appears that since you're ignoring the original comment and > appear to be enjoying your temper tantrum, as far as I am concerned > this discussion has ended. > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I asked for yours because you don't seem to have one, and considering >> your next move that seems rather hypocritical. I have extensive >> experience with many homeschool groups, religious and not, in quite a >> few states -- Texas, Ohio, New Mexico, West Virginia, Michigan and >> Maryland off the top of my head. >> >> I don't feel the need to fish around in my resources for the benefit >> of a pompous pontificator who can't be bothered to back up the claim >> he wants me to refute. >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> I simply asked for the source so I could judge for myself. If you have >>> the cite I'd simply like to see it otherwise for all I know its from >>> some dim fantasy world. >>> >>> You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled >>> however to your own facts. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> you slander a community I've been part of for more than a decade in... >>>> oh at least half a dozen states, then demand that I prove your >>>> prejudices are ill-founded. >>>> >>>> whatever. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> why the hostility? I do not think that my comment merited a such a > response. >>>>> >>>>> something pissing you off in real life? >>>>> >>>>> Your response is not your typical behavior on this list. >>>>> >>>>> If not then as far as I am concerned you can go take a flying... my >>>>> life is too short to have to deal with that sort of foetid and well >>>>> ripened manure. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hah, you blather endlessly about your preconceptions and then bewail >>>>>> MY biases? You were the first to characterize the group -- let's see >>>>>> YOUR souces, and I insist, given that it's you, on a peer-reviewed >>>>>> journal article. >>>>>> >>>>>> What the hell. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons > <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> interesting numbers where did you get them? pull them from something >>>>>>> that agrees with your own biases? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bullshit. It's perhaps a quarter of homeschoolers who are religious, >>>>>>>> Larry. They are merely the most vocal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott, try Ambleside and if that doesn't look like your cup of tea > try >>>>>>>> the google term "umbrella school." Or, there is Calvert, but they > are >>>>>>>> pricy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons > <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My sympathies. I would think that given the landscape, you'd be > doing >>>>>>>>> good to find anything that's not religious in the home schooling >>>>>>>>> market. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ...is finding quality, secular curriculum. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My wife and I have been looking into homeschool programs that > actually >>>>>>>>>> give the children diplomas and transcripts. Unfortunately, since a >>>>>>>>>> large portion of those who homeschool do so for religious reasons > (we >>>>>>>>>> do not, BTW), most of these programs have curricula that are > heavily >>>>>>>>>> religious. This has not bee a huge bone of contention with me as > most >>>>>>>>>> of the programs allow you to substitute a curriculum for each > subject. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yesterday that changed. We visited the main office for one of > these >>>>>>>>>> programs. Up until yesterday, we were impressed with their > reputation, >>>>>>>>>> cost and the fact that they were fairly liberal in what you could >>>>>>>>>> substitute. For grammar school children, the only subjects you > could >>>>>>>>>> nit substitute was English and Religion. I was cool with that. >>>>>>>>>> However, we were then told that for high school you cannot > substitute >>>>>>>>>> English, Religion and History. I immediately went and started > looking >>>>>>>>>> at the High School history books. They had titles like 'Christ the >>>>>>>>>> King, Lord of History' and 'Christ and the Americas'. The first > book I >>>>>>>>>> picked up had chapters named 'Abraham' and 'Moses' - and the > 'Moses' >>>>>>>>>> chapter was twice as long as each chapter devoted to 'Ancient > Greece' >>>>>>>>>> and 'Ancient Rome'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The main biology books were different volumes of a series titled >>>>>>>>>> 'Exploring Creation'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was disgusted with all the religious drivel that was included in >>>>>>>>>> these books - and was immediately turned off to this program (We > had >>>>>>>>>> looked at it because of the ones with a good reputation that are >>>>>>>>>> accredited, this one was Catholic) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My wife is a devote Catholic, I am not. We have discussed raising > our >>>>>>>>>> children Catholic, but these references in a history book > concerned >>>>>>>>>> even her. I have no issues with the children learning about >>>>>>>>>> Catholicism, but to have those beliefs brought into subjects like >>>>>>>>>> history and science is where I draw the line. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, now we must continue the search for a good program, like the > ones >>>>>>>>>> we have looked at, but that do not cram the religion down the kids >>>>>>>>>> throats in every subject. There has got to be a happy medium >>>>>>>>>> somewhere.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> </rant> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Scott Stroz >>>>>>>>>> --------------- >>>>>>>>>> The DOM is retarded. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/386/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? 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