I will agree with that...we (as in the UN) should have been involved a long time ago in several African countries that we are just letting atrocioties continue that are far more severe that what was happening in Libya.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 08:43 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Mig 23 fighter shot down over Benghazi!! > > In stark contrast the World, via the UN, has stated that they are > attempting to protect the people of Libya after Gaddaffi stated that > he would murder them without mercy to retain control of the country. > And THAT is the primary reason for these attacks. > This makes me laugh my ass off as the UN has never attempted to 'protect the people' of any country till now. I point to Darfur as the ever present example. The only reason the UN is getting involved in this is because the block of countries that literally control the direction of open debate at the UN has decided to get behind this. If the Arab league, Russia, and China didn't want this to happen, it wouldn't. Russia and China are silent on this and are willing to 'let it go' for capital later. The Arab league is feeling the pinch of world events and are almost forced to do something. > > Let me break it down for you: > > BUSH- PRIMARY REASON - Weapons of Mass Destruction/Funding Terrorism. > WMD = false, Funding terrorism = true > OBAMA/UN - PRIMARY REASON - Protect Libyans after Gaddaffi says he > will kill them without Mercy. > While ignoring him until now. And waiting a few days before even saying that Qadaffi should step down. And I would have thought after saying that Obama was weak, did not want to > take any firm military stance on any matters, that you would be happy > that he has decided on a definite, hawkish course of action along with > France, Egypt etc. > I'm not an advocate of violence. There is a time and place for it but it has to be balanced with many other factors. I'm all for assassination though. It is always preferred as it kills the one responsible for the mess while leaving civilians mostly alone. The problem is, you can't assassinate a head of state. Sets a bad president. A barbaric military commander or terrorist leader on the other hand... So you're upset when he doesn't attack and talks and negotiates ad nauseum, > and now you're upset when he does attack. > I've just reread though my responses and I don't see myself being upset in any place nor have I advocated invading anyone. If I'm displeased with anything it is the speed in which Obama dumped an ally and the slowness to say anything about an enemy. Obama is not a virgin here. He knew what Mubarak has been doing to his people for all these years and was happy to keep silent till now. He also knew what Qadaffi has been doing to his people. Why the different in actions? Why the delay? But bottom line is that if the Libyan people can get a good government together rather than trading one tyrant for another then I'm happy for them. They're sitting on top of untold riches in water and with the right government they can become a true center of power in Africa (stop calling them part of the middle or near east.) > On 20 March 2011 05:33, Michael Dinowitz <mdino...@houseoffusion.com> > wrote: > > > > > Saddam funded terrorists. Real stabilizing. > > > > So we have two insane tyrants, both supressing his people. The only > > difference is that that Iraq was under Bush (who can do no right) > > and Libya is under Obama (who can do no wrong). > > > > Oh, side question, what took our president so long to act on Libya > > when > he > > was so fast on Egypt? Was Egypt less of a stabilizing presence in > > the > area? > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:335440 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
