Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper 
weight? Or are you saying we're powerless to stop obesity?

On 2012-01-28, at 7:00 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> 
wrote:

> 
> The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend to have a lot of stuff in
> them that are bad for you.  That is a big factor in obesity.  Many of the
> ingredients, like HFCS have been shown to make you gain weight.  Other
> factors also get into it...things like thyroid disease, diabetes, etc...and
> the drugs that people take to combat these diseses also contribute to weight
> gain.  I have diabetes.  Most of the oral meds I take have weight gain as a
> side effect.  Insulin also increase weight gain since when you have higher
> insulin levels, your body will start to store glucose as fat since it thinks
> that, because of the elevated insulin levels, that there is an abundance of
> glucose in your blood.  Hypothyroidism, which is pretty common, also adds to
> weight gain as it lowers your metabolism.  Pretty much any disorder of the
> pituitary/adrenal system will cause weight gain.  Much of this is caused by
> some of the contaminats in our foods, like mercury and heavy metals.  So
> even if you have a healthy diet and exercise, you may not lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> 
> 
> Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North America
> can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a significant
> enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat right (ie. lots of
> veggies, not much fried or processed food) and exercise? If it is, then I'll
> happily apologize for insinuating that the epidemic of obesity is largely
> self-inflicted and preventable.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of 
>> debilitating conditions won't put you in a wheelchair.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with 
>>> the
>> other
>>> 99.9% of obese people. :)
>>> I don't think anyone is bagging on overweight handicapped people.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts < 
>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise 
>>>> sufficiently
>>> due
>>>> to disabilities.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
>>>> To: cf-community
>>>> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all 
>>>> I am saying.
>>>> 
>>>> Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some 
>>>> other
>>> reason,
>>>> may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining 
>>>> more but
>>> not
>>>> causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much 
>>>> have
>> to
>>>> exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and 
>>>> keep
>> it
>>>> off. I for one lost about forty pounds in the past year, but I was
>> quite
>>>> sick for a while and didn't eat much and what I did eat was raw. 
>>>> That's fine, and I've been able to keep it off, but you can't eat 
>>>> all fruit
>> all
>>> of
>>>> the time and stay healthy. Before that, when I asked doctors, I 
>>>> got different advice. Don't worry about carbs - just avoid fat. 
>>>> Cut back on carbs. Eat nothing but protein, and don't worry too much
> about the fat.
>>>> Count calories. Don't count calories, you'll make yourself crazy 
>>>> --
>> just
>>>> eat
>>>> right. Like I don't. I probably have better cholesterol numbers 
>>>> than
>>> anyone
>>>> on this list ;)
>>>> 
>>>> So.... I thought three times before getting into this, because I 
>>>> didn't want to sound defensive, or like I was making excuses, but 
>>>> this isn't really about me. I have more weight to lose and am 
>>>> pretty sure that for me the
>>> key
>>>> will be increasing my activity level, but I don't think that's the 
>>>> case
>>> for
>>>> everyone. My mother was a yo-yo dieter and crash programs 
>>>> certainly
>>> didn't
>>>> work for her, and she did religiously swim three or four times a 
>>>> week
>> for
>>>> years.
>>>> 
>>>> People gain weight for different reasons. The ones who gain 
>>>> because
>> they
>>>> eat
>>>> too much eat too much for different reasons. There are people who 
>>>> have thyroid problems and people who just don't exercise. One size 
>>>> does not
>>> fit
>>>> all, is what I am saying.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT <cft...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> See?  Not ignorant at all.  2/3 accurate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote:
>>>>> The other two legs of the
>>>>>> stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember.
>>>>>> Reasonable portions and routine exercise.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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