I *think* he is supporting my point that telling people to just push away from the table is a rather insulting oversimplification. Being overweight is not good, and people should do something about it. But that something is not always "stop super-sizing your French Fries."
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Michael Grant <mgr...@modus.bz> wrote: > > Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper > weight? Or are you saying we're powerless to stop obesity? > > On 2012-01-28, at 7:00 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> > wrote: > > > > > The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend to have a lot of stuff > in > > them that are bad for you. That is a big factor in obesity. Many of the > > ingredients, like HFCS have been shown to make you gain weight. Other > > factors also get into it...things like thyroid disease, diabetes, > etc...and > > the drugs that people take to combat these diseses also contribute to > weight > > gain. I have diabetes. Most of the oral meds I take have weight gain > as a > > side effect. Insulin also increase weight gain since when you have > higher > > insulin levels, your body will start to store glucose as fat since it > thinks > > that, because of the elevated insulin levels, that there is an abundance > of > > glucose in your blood. Hypothyroidism, which is pretty common, also > adds to > > weight gain as it lowers your metabolism. Pretty much any disorder of > the > > pituitary/adrenal system will cause weight gain. Much of this is caused > by > > some of the contaminats in our foods, like mercury and heavy metals. So > > even if you have a healthy diet and exercise, you may not lose weight. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children > > > > > > Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North > America > > can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a significant > > enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat right (ie. > lots of > > veggies, not much fried or processed food) and exercise? If it is, then > I'll > > happily apologize for insinuating that the epidemic of obesity is largely > > self-inflicted and preventable. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of > >> debilitating conditions won't put you in a wheelchair. > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with > >>> the > >> other > >>> 99.9% of obese people. :) > >>> I don't think anyone is bagging on overweight handicapped people. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts < > >>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise > >>>> sufficiently > >>> due > >>>> to disabilities. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM > >>>> To: cf-community > >>>> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all > >>>> I am saying. > >>>> > >>>> Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some > >>>> other > >>> reason, > >>>> may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining > >>>> more but > >>> not > >>>> causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much > >>>> have > >> to > >>>> exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and > >>>> keep > >> it > >>>> off. I for one lost about forty pounds in the past year, but I was > >> quite > >>>> sick for a while and didn't eat much and what I did eat was raw. > >>>> That's fine, and I've been able to keep it off, but you can't eat > >>>> all fruit > >> all > >>> of > >>>> the time and stay healthy. Before that, when I asked doctors, I > >>>> got different advice. Don't worry about carbs - just avoid fat. > >>>> Cut back on carbs. Eat nothing but protein, and don't worry too much > > about the fat. > >>>> Count calories. Don't count calories, you'll make yourself crazy > >>>> -- > >> just > >>>> eat > >>>> right. Like I don't. I probably have better cholesterol numbers > >>>> than > >>> anyone > >>>> on this list ;) > >>>> > >>>> So.... I thought three times before getting into this, because I > >>>> didn't want to sound defensive, or like I was making excuses, but > >>>> this isn't really about me. I have more weight to lose and am > >>>> pretty sure that for me the > >>> key > >>>> will be increasing my activity level, but I don't think that's the > >>>> case > >>> for > >>>> everyone. My mother was a yo-yo dieter and crash programs > >>>> certainly > >>> didn't > >>>> work for her, and she did religiously swim three or four times a > >>>> week > >> for > >>>> years. > >>>> > >>>> People gain weight for different reasons. The ones who gain > >>>> because > >> they > >>>> eat > >>>> too much eat too much for different reasons. There are people who > >>>> have thyroid problems and people who just don't exercise. One size > >>>> does not > >>> fit > >>>> all, is what I am saying. > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT <cft...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :) > >>>>> > >>>>> See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote: > >>>>> The other two legs of the > >>>>>> stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. > >>>>>> Reasonable portions and routine exercise. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345995 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
