The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend to have a lot of stuff in
them that are bad for you.  That is a big factor in obesity.  Many of the
ingredients, like HFCS have been shown to make you gain weight.  Other
factors also get into it...things like thyroid disease, diabetes, etc...and
the drugs that people take to combat these diseses also contribute to weight
gain.  I have diabetes.  Most of the oral meds I take have weight gain as a
side effect.  Insulin also increase weight gain since when you have higher
insulin levels, your body will start to store glucose as fat since it thinks
that, because of the elevated insulin levels, that there is an abundance of
glucose in your blood.  Hypothyroidism, which is pretty common, also adds to
weight gain as it lowers your metabolism.  Pretty much any disorder of the
pituitary/adrenal system will cause weight gain.  Much of this is caused by
some of the contaminats in our foods, like mercury and heavy metals.  So
even if you have a healthy diet and exercise, you may not lose weight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children


Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North America
can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a significant
enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat right (ie. lots of
veggies, not much fried or processed food) and exercise? If it is, then I'll
happily apologize for insinuating that the epidemic of obesity is largely
self-inflicted and preventable.



On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of 
> debilitating conditions won't put you in a wheelchair.
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with 
> > the
> other
> > 99.9% of obese people. :)
> > I don't think anyone is bagging on overweight handicapped people.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts < 
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise 
> > > sufficiently
> > due
> > > to disabilities.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> > >
> > >
> > > it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all 
> > > I am saying.
> > >
> > > Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some 
> > > other
> > reason,
> > > may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining 
> > > more but
> > not
> > > causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much 
> > > have
> to
> > > exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and 
> > > keep
> it
> > > off. I for one lost about forty pounds in the past year, but I was
> quite
> > > sick for a while and didn't eat much and what I did eat was raw. 
> > > That's fine, and I've been able to keep it off, but you can't eat 
> > > all fruit
> all
> > of
> > > the time and stay healthy. Before that, when I asked doctors, I 
> > > got different advice. Don't worry about carbs - just avoid fat. 
> > > Cut back on carbs. Eat nothing but protein, and don't worry too much
about the fat.
> > > Count calories. Don't count calories, you'll make yourself crazy 
> > > --
> just
> > > eat
> > > right. Like I don't. I probably have better cholesterol numbers 
> > > than
> > anyone
> > > on this list ;)
> > >
> > > So.... I thought three times before getting into this, because I 
> > > didn't want to sound defensive, or like I was making excuses, but 
> > > this isn't really about me. I have more weight to lose and am 
> > > pretty sure that for me the
> > key
> > > will be increasing my activity level, but I don't think that's the 
> > > case
> > for
> > > everyone. My mother was a yo-yo dieter and crash programs 
> > > certainly
> > didn't
> > > work for her, and she did religiously swim three or four times a 
> > > week
> for
> > > years.
> > >
> > > People gain weight for different reasons. The ones who gain 
> > > because
> they
> > > eat
> > > too much eat too much for different reasons. There are people who 
> > > have thyroid problems and people who just don't exercise. One size 
> > > does not
> > fit
> > > all, is what I am saying.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT <cft...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :)
> > > >
> > > > See?  Not ignorant at all.  2/3 accurate.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote:
> > > >  The other two legs of the
> > > > > stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember.
> > > > > Reasonable portions and routine exercise.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 



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