Those are choices made out of convenience or laziness. No one is forced to eat fast food. And few are truly unable to find 30 to 60 minutes a day to do some exercise. It may not be easy, but it's doable.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I would say a little of both. It's really stacked against us. Corporate > greed overrides putting in healthy ingredients...instead we use chemicals > that are harmful to us and tend to increase obesity. In the lower class > and > even parts of the middle class...i would say that yes, we are powerless to > stop obesity. Back when we had Mom at home cooking a fresh dinner with > fresh ingredients, it was a lot easier. Now that most households are 2 > income households, we are forced to eat more fast food and foods that we > can > prepare quickly. These foods have high amounts of saturated fats and high > fructose corn syrup and other products that lead to faster weight gain. > These products tend to have more calories per serving. Healthy foods are > much more expensive to buy and a lot of people just can't afford it. I > know > I would love to shop at whole foods all the time, but I would go broke real > fast and I make pretty decent money. Even when you have ideal conditions > and one can eat relatively healthy and exercise, it is difficult to > maintain > a good weight. Our lifestyle does not match our evolution. We were > designed to have very active lifestyles. Unfortunately, especially for > those of us in non-laborer positions, we don't have the time to get the > exercise we really need. So I would definitely say yes to both, depending > on the situation. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:31 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children > > > Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper > weight? Or are you saying we're powerless to stop obesity? > > On 2012-01-28, at 7:00 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > > > wrote: > > > > > The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend to have a lot of > > stuff in them that are bad for you. That is a big factor in obesity. > > Many of the ingredients, like HFCS have been shown to make you gain > > weight. Other factors also get into it...things like thyroid disease, > > diabetes, etc...and the drugs that people take to combat these diseses > > also contribute to weight gain. I have diabetes. Most of the oral > > meds I take have weight gain as a side effect. Insulin also increase > > weight gain since when you have higher insulin levels, your body will > > start to store glucose as fat since it thinks that, because of the > > elevated insulin levels, that there is an abundance of glucose in your > > blood. Hypothyroidism, which is pretty common, also adds to weight > > gain as it lowers your metabolism. Pretty much any disorder of the > > pituitary/adrenal system will cause weight gain. Much of this is > > caused by some of the contaminats in our foods, like mercury and heavy > metals. So even if you have a healthy diet and exercise, you may not lose > weight. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children > > > > > > Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North > > America can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a > > significant enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat > > right (ie. lots of veggies, not much fried or processed food) and > > exercise? If it is, then I'll happily apologize for insinuating that > > the epidemic of obesity is largely self-inflicted and preventable. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of > >> debilitating conditions won't put you in a wheelchair. > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with > >>> the > >> other > >>> 99.9% of obese people. :) > >>> I don't think anyone is bagging on overweight handicapped people. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts < > >>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise > >>>> sufficiently > >>> due > >>>> to disabilities. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM > >>>> To: cf-community > >>>> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I > >>>> am saying. > >>>> > >>>> Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some other > >>> reason, > >>>> may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining more > >>>> but > >>> not > >>>> causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much > >>>> have > >> to > >>>> exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and > >>>> keep > >> it > >>>> off. I for one lost about forty pounds in the past year, but I was > >> quite > >>>> sick for a while and didn't eat much and what I did eat was raw. > >>>> That's fine, and I've been able to keep it off, but you can't eat > >>>> all fruit > >> all > >>> of > >>>> the time and stay healthy. Before that, when I asked doctors, I got > >>>> different advice. Don't worry about carbs - just avoid fat. > >>>> Cut back on carbs. Eat nothing but protein, and don't worry too > >>>> much > > about the fat. > >>>> Count calories. Don't count calories, you'll make yourself crazy > >>>> -- > >> just > >>>> eat > >>>> right. Like I don't. I probably have better cholesterol numbers > >>>> than > >>> anyone > >>>> on this list ;) > >>>> > >>>> So.... I thought three times before getting into this, because I > >>>> didn't want to sound defensive, or like I was making excuses, but > >>>> this isn't really about me. I have more weight to lose and am > >>>> pretty sure that for me the > >>> key > >>>> will be increasing my activity level, but I don't think that's the > >>>> case > >>> for > >>>> everyone. My mother was a yo-yo dieter and crash programs certainly > >>> didn't > >>>> work for her, and she did religiously swim three or four times a > >>>> week > >> for > >>>> years. > >>>> > >>>> People gain weight for different reasons. The ones who gain because > >> they > >>>> eat > >>>> too much eat too much for different reasons. There are people who > >>>> have thyroid problems and people who just don't exercise. One size > >>>> does not > >>> fit > >>>> all, is what I am saying. > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT <cft...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :) > >>>>> > >>>>> See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote: > >>>>> The other two legs of the > >>>>>> stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. > >>>>>> Reasonable portions and routine exercise. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:346000 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
