Scott, the ruling makes no distinction between different types of
jails. Further more, look at the actual person involved in the case.
He had an outstanding (though incorrect) warrant for a failure to pay
a fine. He had not been brought to trial and sentenced for the failure
to pay that fine yet. Obviously, they let him go when they found out
that the warrant was incorrect.

The guy was still in a jail directly from being picked up off the
street. He had not been through a trial and then reported to serve his
sentence. The fact that it was a county jail and not a city jail is
irrelevant. It's the same scenario in as in a city jail and the ruling
makes no differentiation between different types of incarceration.

Once again, from the article:
*****
About 13 million people are admitted each year to the nation’s jails,
Justice Kennedy wrote.

Under Monday’s ruling, he wrote, "every detainee who will be admitted
to the general population may be required to undergo a close visual
inspection while undressed."
*****

13 million people explicitly covered under this policy as per the
author of the ruling. I, personally, find that shocking and
outrageous.

Judah

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It seems you may have an idea of the location the searches took place
> that might not be accurate (and this explanation may not even matter -
> but I am going to try anyway).
>
> These strip searches were not done in a local police department after
> the man was brought to the police station. They were done in county
> jails. The difference between them is like the difference between a
> jail cell in a NY police precinct and Riker's Island. In NJ, the
> county jails are not where you go when you are arrested, its where you
> go when you are convicted of a crime that is not 'severe' enough to be
> put in state prison (or are awaiting trial and were denied or cannot
> afford bail).
>
> Should everyone who gets arrested get strip searched? I don't believe
> so. Should everyone who is being brought into a corrections facility
> as a prisoner get strip searched? I think that is the prudent think to
> do.
>
> Once again, I think the travesty here is that an innocent man (who had
> a letter proving his innocence) was put into the system as a prisoner
> - not how he was treated as a prisoner when he got there.
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Cameron Childress <camer...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> IMHO - being admitted to a jail is more than enough reasonable suspicion
>>> and probable cause for a search. Period.
>>>
>>> This guy should never have been admitted to jail, but that's not an issue
>>> for the jail personel to decide. It should never have gotten to that point.
>>
>> And that's the sort of attitude that has caused the erosion of the 4th
>> Amendment. If the cops feel like they ought to arrest someone, well,
>> that ought to be good enough? It's bad enough that people can get put
>> in jail at the whim of an officer. At least there is some minimal
>> recourse for false arrest. But now we are also saying that an
>> invasive, full body strip search is just going to be the standard part
>> of depriving you of your liberty. I think that's absurd and dangerous.
>>
>> Think about recent protests, for example. 100 people get arrested and
>> detained. Everyone knows that those people are going to be held for
>> probably a couple hours, then released. The DA will probably waive
>> charges for most of them. If you get a hard ass DA, they might get
>> brought to a mass court hearing and everyone gets hit with community
>> service and probation. Not a big deal.
>>
>> Now, you really think it is reasonable and worthwhile to strip search
>> every single one of those 100 protestors? What is gained? Why is it
>> reasonable? Do we really need to sacrifice the dignity and humanness
>> of all these people for the sake of...what? I don't even know.
>>
>> Judah
>>
>>
>
> 

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