Bill. Let me worry about my blood pressure ok? I just need to remember that there is no arguing with people who dont listen.
Dana On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:34:57 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope you're reading too much into it. Its a simple point, don't break the > law. If you don't you don't open yourself up to as much shit as you could > get otherwise. > > Live life knowing that everyone is out to get you and you are the only > person who really cares about you. > > Relax no need to let this get to you its all just friendly banter. Its > very > easy to say follow the law or you have nobody to blame but yourself. It > sure > sucks for the guy and if he was really wrongly accused then he should > sue. > But I really was not being condescending and there's no facts to check, > if > he followed the law he would probably have not gotten on anyone's radar > and > wouldn't have had to put up with the shit no matter what it was. > > And on a hypothetical basis just because the DA apologized to him doesn't > mean anything I'm sure people are snookered sometimes by a good liar or > whatever. > > I was merely saying a simple point...follow the law. > > Just friendly banter, relax take some deep breaths. No need to be smug > and > rude with me because deep down the simplicity of my point is obvious to > all > but people who are determined to avoid the point if he followed the law > regardless of what everyone else did he'd probably still be a whatever he > was at Los Alamos. > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:10 PM > Subject: Re: A good american > > >> OK, I was thinking about this thread while I was eating my thai chile. >> It >> originally started as a rather flippant remark in response to John' >> suggestion that we shoot spies. I gave Wen Ho Lee as an example of an >> accused spy who was apparently innocent. Since then Bill has been >> arguing >> erm, something, and I am letting this thread get to my blood pressure. I >> really hate when I hear condescension coming from someone who can't be >> bothered to check facts before making smug pronouncements. >> >> Your arguments are slightly different. You are right that ignorance of >> the >> law is not an excuse. That is probably not what happened in the Wen Ho >> Lee >> case, but ok. That case was intended to be an example of >> disproportionate >> penalties and one where the court system did not work. >> >> But there is a deeper question here, which is how can you possibly >> prevent >> anyone from ever thinking you have done something wrong, which seems to >> be >> what you are saying. Some people just see wrongdoing everywhere. I have >> been reported to Child Protective Services for owning a computer >> (Florida) >> and for having a job (New Mexico). The scary thing is that both times >> the >> agencies investigated, though the cases were quickly closed. The answer >> to >> this is *not* to not work because some people think you should stay home >> with your children and *not* to not own a computer because some people >> think the internet is evil. You cannot possibly proactively imagine all >> of >> the idiotic things people can dream up in the way of accusations. >> >> So if you are saying that he should have considered the possiblity that >> someone would accuse him of being a spy, I respectfully disagree. You >> cannot live your life on the basis of trying to never be accused of >> something. >> >> Dana >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:52:56 -0400, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> nacho.com> >> wrote: >> >> > That is why we have a court system. >> > >> > If animal control gets there and says there is nothing wrong, then the >> > neighbor will just have to deal with it. >> > >> > Ignorance of the law/rule is no excuse; you have a responsibility >> prior >> > to >> > doing something to verify that what you plan to do follows the rules. >> > >> > The courts have ruled on this time and time again, just because you >> > didn't >> > know it was illegal doesn't mean your are not responsible for it. >> > >> > If you are underpaying on your social security, the government has a >> way >> > to >> > get things back where they are supposed to be. If your company didn't >> > withhold the correct amount, they will work out a way for you to pay >> it >> > to >> > them. If the company withheld the correct amount, but didn't send it >> in, >> > then you show proof of this, and they will go after the company. >> > >> > They are not going to arrest you because your math was wrong, they >> will >> > audit you, and all parties can work things out. Remember, if you are >> > underpaying on you social security, you are hurting every American, if >> > you >> > cheat on your taxes, you are hurting every American. >> > >> > What about those really archaic laws? Those murder laws are pretty >> old; >> > maybe I can just ignore them. If there is a law on the books you need >> to >> > follow the law or accept the consequences, you can try to get the law >> > changed, or abolished, but until then, it is still a law. >> > >> > Obedience of the law is not asked, it is expected. >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:30 PM >> >> To: CF-Community >> >> Subject: Re: A good american >> >> >> >> hmm. And what if the dog is not being abused but your neighbor feels >> no >> >> dog >> >> should ever be left outside? And what about the people on this list >> who >> >> have apparently been underpaying their Social Security taxes without >> >> realizing it? You have to imagine that something is a rule to not >> break >> >> it, >> >> or that someone might think you are doing somethng wrong and report >> it. >> >> What about all those really archaic laws? I think you guys are >> >> stretching. >> >> >> >> Dana >> > >> > >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
