Dear i don't think you're wrong relax. Never said you were wrong i know how it is now i know you gotta do all the stuff its ok. Please don't assume anything with me :) I never said you were wrong and i'm sorry if i implied you were. *Muffins*
"When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: A good american > But you're convinced I'm wrong though. And I am a condescending jerk for > questioning that I am wrong. OK... I know how much weight to give your > opinions in future. > > Dana > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:38:54 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I dropped it :> I said i was done discussing it. I heard it on the radio > > and its just friendly banter. > > > > Relax you seem to be under alot of stress lately deep breaths dear > > > > > > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good > > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" > > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:20 PM > > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > > >> ::pounds head on desk::: and the astounding thing here is that you think > >> I > >> don't get it. LOL. How are you doing with links to that citizenship > > program > >> I was so wrong about? > >> > >> Dana > >> > >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:14:02 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > woo hoo finally someone who gets it LOL > >> > > >> > I thought i was loosing my mind and would have to move to canada > >> > > >> > > >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was > > good > >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people > > off!" > >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > nacho.com> > >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:17 PM > >> > Subject: RE: A good american > >> > > >> > > >> >> I think the rule here is: Don't ever talk out loud about breaking the > >> >> law. > >> >> > >> >> If you do chain your dog up in a way where it seems the dog is being > >> > abused, > >> >> then the humane society should be called. > >> >> > >> >> If you talk about cheating on your taxes, then don't be surprised if > > the > >> > tax > >> >> man comes knocking on your door. > >> >> > >> >> I think the answer to the question is, don't break the rules. It > > doesn't > >> >> matter what everyone else does, listen to your mother. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:05 PM > >> >> > To: CF-Community > >> >> > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > > >> >> > OK... actually that does contain a *glimmer* of sense. You can lose > >> >> your > >> >> > mind that way though, trying to imagine everything that someone > >> >> *might* > >> >> > dime you for. Don't yeall at your kids -- someone might call cps. > >> >> Don't > >> >> > chain your dog outside -- someone might call the humane society. > > Don't > >> >> > talk > >> >> > about your taxes -- someone might turn you in for not paying your > > full > >> >> > complement of Social Security. Don't let your parking meter run > >> >> out.... > >> > I > >> >> > mean, how was he supposed to imagine that someone would accuse him > >> of > >> >> > spying? And on a social level not a group level it's not really > >> fair > >> >> to > >> >> > have one guy over here accused of spying for the Chinese > >> (presumably > >> >> > because he is Chinese) and in solitary confinement for months on > >> end, > >> >> > while > >> >> > other people walk around unhampered... is it? > >> >> > > >> >> > Dana > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:52:24 -0400, William Wheatley > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > Ok and if he hadn't broken rules that were not really ever > >> enforced > >> >> he > >> >> > > wouldn't be in trouble. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Its a prime example of why not to break rules even if everyone > >> else > >> >> > does. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I > > was > >> >> > good > >> >> > > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts > >> people > >> >> > off!" > >> >> > > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:58 AM > >> >> > > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> Bill. Please tell me what you think peer pressure has to do with > >> > this? > >> >> > >> The > >> >> > >> guy was accused of espionage and the government later says > >> whoops > >> >> we > >> >> > are > >> >> > >> sorry and released him. > >> >> > >> The judge and the prosecuting attorney apologized to him. Are we > >> >> even > >> >> > >> talking about the same case?? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Dana > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:34:41 -0400, William Wheatley > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > :) If he hadn't broken the rules do you think he would have > >> been > >> >> in > >> >> > >> > trouble?? > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > Sucks to be him but i bet hes been saying if i hadn't given > >> into > >> > peer > >> >> > >> > pressure to break the rules i wouldn't have been screwed. LOL > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, > >> I > >> > was > >> >> > > good > >> >> > >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts > >> >> people > >> >> > > off!" > >> >> > >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" > >> >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 3:06 PM > >> >> > >> > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> >> ::sigh:: The judge and the prosecuting attorney apologized to > >> >> the > >> >> > >> guy. > >> >> > >> >> But > >> >> > >> >> ok, think what you like. Have a croissant. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Dana > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:48:45 -0400, William Wheatley > >> >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > No in other words if you know people are going to be > >> gunning > >> >> for > >> >> > >> you > >> >> > >> >> > don't > >> >> > >> >> > give them a reason to make them get you. Don't break the > > rules > >> > if > >> >> > >> he > >> >> > >> >> > hadn't > >> >> > >> >> > he'd be fine nobody really to blame for the situation > > starting > >> > but > >> >> > >> >> > himself. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. > > Sure, > >> >> I > >> >> > >> was > >> >> > >> > good > >> >> > >> >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it > >> puts > >> >> > people > >> >> > >> > off!" > >> >> > >> >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" > >> >> > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:23 AM > >> >> > >> >> > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> I just saw this. I think you aren't thinking before you > >> >> write. > >> > A > >> >> > >> > Chinese > >> >> > >> >> >> scientist was singled out, possibly because he is Chinese. > >> >> > > Subsequent > >> >> > >> >> >> investigation revealed that the problem was facility wide > > and > >> > the > >> >> > >> >> >> University of California was fired as administrator. No > > other > >> >> > >> >> scientist > >> >> > >> >> >> were charged with espionage let alone spent a year in > >> jail. > > I > >> >> > have > >> >> > > no > >> >> > >> >> >> idea > >> >> > >> >> >> whether he is suing or not; I just think he got a raw > >> deal. > >> > There > >> >> > >> is > >> >> > >> >> > little > >> >> > >> >> >> point in nitpicking over this one case since neither one > >> of > >> >> us > >> > is > >> >> > >> >> >> looking > >> >> > >> >> >> up the details; my point is, there is at least a distinct > >> >> > > possibility > >> >> > >> >> >> that > >> >> > >> >> >> as he always maintained, he had no contact with the > >> Chinese > >> >> > >> >> government, > >> >> > >> >> > and > >> >> > >> >> >> was merely a little sloppy like every other one of the > >> >> several > >> >> > >> >> thousand > >> >> > >> >> >> employees of the facility, not one of whom was also > >> jailed. > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> In other words, good thing we didn't shoot him. > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Dana > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:14:31 -0400, William Wheatley > >> >> > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > Just because everyone does it is no excuse. When I get > >> >> caught > >> >> > >> > speeding > >> >> > >> >> > do > >> >> > >> >> >> > I > >> >> > >> >> >> > say..everyone does it.. lol no. > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > Well as I said I've seen reports on both sides of it. He > >> >> knew > >> >> > >> the > >> >> > >> >> >> rules > >> >> > >> >> >> > and > >> >> > >> >> >> > he broke the, just because everyone does it doesn't mean > >> >> you > >> >> > >> >> should. > >> >> > >> >> >> And > >> >> > >> >> >> > he > >> >> > >> >> >> > deserves the scrutiny he got for it. IF he wants to sue > >> go > >> > for > >> >> > >> it > >> >> > >> >> if > >> >> > >> >> >> not > >> >> > >> >> >> > well that's on him. > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. > >> > Sure, > >> >> > I > >> >> > >> >> was > >> >> > >> >> > good > >> >> > >> >> >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it > >> >> puts > >> >> > > people > >> >> > >> >> > off!" > >> >> > >> >> >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> >> > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" > >> >> > >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:42 PM > >> >> > >> >> >> > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> AFAIK he did nothing worse than take a laptop > >> containing > >> >> > >> >> classified > >> >> > >> >> > data > >> >> > >> >> >> >> out of its prescribed area. It later developed that > >> this > >> >> was > >> >> > >> very > >> >> > >> >> >> often > >> >> > >> >> >> >> done at Los Alamos, and many laptops are just plain > >> lost. > >> >> UC > >> >> > >> just > >> >> > >> >> >> lost > >> >> > >> >> >> >> its > >> >> > >> >> >> >> contract to run the place due to slovenly security. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> I don't know if he is suing. I am sure it would not > > endear > >> > him > >> >> > >> to > >> >> > >> > the > >> >> > >> >> > US > >> >> > >> >> >> >> government if he did. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> Dana > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> William Wheatley writes: > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Oh well better safe and in jail until its proven if > >> >> there > >> >> > was > >> >> > >> >> > evidence > >> >> > >> >> >> > to > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > think you were a criminal in the first place. Is he > >> > sueing?? > >> >> > >> If > >> >> > >> >> >> they > >> >> > >> >> >> > were so > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > wrong why doesn't he have his clearance back?? > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I mean if it was me i would be pissed i was in jail > >> but > >> >> i > >> >> > >> would > >> >> > >> >> >> > understand > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > they can't let me roam free with national security > >> > interests > >> >> > >> >> like > >> >> > >> >> >> >> that. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > He can sue to get his stuff back if it was that > >> unjust. > >> >> I > >> >> > >> read > >> >> > >> >> on > >> >> > >> >> > both > >> >> > >> >> >> > sides > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > of the story. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > He was still lookign rather unsavory maybe he > >> realizes > >> >> he > >> >> > got > >> >> > >> >> off > >> >> > >> >> > easy > >> >> > >> >> >> > and > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > not to push his luck > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no > > skills. > >> >> > >> Sure, > >> >> > > I > >> >> > >> >> >> was > >> >> > >> >> >> > good > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - > >> it > >> > puts > >> >> > >> > people > >> >> > >> >> >> > off!" > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" > >> >> > >> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:00 PM > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > suuuure the system worked; the guy spent a year in > >> >> jail, > >> >> > >> and > >> >> > > I > >> >> > >> >> > think > >> >> > >> >> >> > he > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > lost his security clearance. Hard to get work as a > >> > nuclear > >> >> > >> >> > physicist > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > without one. All for something which subsequent > >> >> > >> investigation > >> >> > >> >> >> >> revealed > >> >> > >> >> >> > to > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > be SOP at Los Alamos. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > Dana > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > William Wheatley writes: > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > Sure thats why you dont summarly shoot them and > >> let > >> > them > >> >> > >> >> goto > >> >> > >> >> >> >> trial > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > first. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > Now if its wartime and you are a spy well you're > >> >> dead > >> >> > >> meat > >> >> > >> >> no > >> >> > >> >> >> >> trial > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > needed > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > sometimes by law but he was found innocent. > >> System > >> >> > >> worked.. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no > >> > skills. > >> >> > >> >> Sure, > >> >> > >> >> >> I > >> >> > >> >> >> >> was > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > good > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a > > resume - > >> > it > >> >> > > puts > >> >> > >> >> >> >> people > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > off!" > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dana > >> > Tierney" > >> >> > >> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > To: "CF-Community" <cf- > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:33 PM > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > I am not really in favor of anyone being shot. > >> A > >> >> spy > >> >> > in > >> >> > >> >> >> wartime > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > *might* be > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > an exception. However, the scientist I > >> mentioned > >> >> was > >> >> > >> >> accused > >> >> > >> >> >> of > >> >> > >> >> >> > spying > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > for > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > China, and later on they dropped all charges > >> >> except > >> >> > >> one, > >> >> > >> >> >> >> something > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > like > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > failing to follow proper procedures with > >> >> classified > >> >> > >> data. > >> >> > >> > And > >> >> > >> >> >> >> this > >> >> > >> >> >> > was > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > probably because the man had already been on > >> jail > >> >> > >> almost > >> >> > > a > >> >> > >> >> > year; > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > proper > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > procedures were so rarely followed at Los > >> Alamos > >> > that > >> >> > >> the > >> >> > >> >> >> >> contract > >> >> > >> >> >> > for > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > running the place was recently revoked. Point > >> is, > >> >> > >> >> sometimes > >> >> > >> >> > they > >> >> > >> >> >> > are > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > wrong > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > about "spies" too. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > Dana > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > Wayne Putterill writes: > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > :) > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > I'm a pacifist, I won't ask for anyone to be > >> >> shot. > >> >> > >> I'll > >> >> > >> >> >> even > >> >> > >> >> >> > give > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > them > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > the rights they deny other prisoners. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:17 > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > To: CF-Community > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > I don't want to talk to the men in black > >> this > >> >> > week. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> Therefore > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > I have to disagree with you. If we were > >> >> talking > >> >> > >> about > >> >> > >> >> >> other > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > penalties.... I might not. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Wayne Putterill writes: > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > True, in my opinion Bush and Blair may > >> have > >> > both > >> >> > >> >> >> betrayed > >> >> > >> >> >> > their > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > respective countries by deceiving the > >> >> > population. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney > >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:03 > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: A good american > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > I suspect that "those who would betray > >> >> this > >> >> > >> >> country" > >> >> > >> >> > has > >> >> > >> >> >> >> a > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > lot of room in it for argument. I am > >> >> pretty > >> >> > >> sure > >> >> > >> > that > >> >> > >> >> > if > >> >> > >> >> >> >> I > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > agreed with you on the statement, you > >> and > >> >> I > >> >> > >> would > >> >> > >> > not > >> >> > >> >> > be > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > agreeing on who should be shot. So that > >> > throws > >> >> > >> up > >> >> > >> >> a > >> >> > >> >> > huge > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > caution flag in my opinion. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Dana > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > John Stanley writes: > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Not at all. Those who would betray > >> this > >> >> > >> country > >> >> > >> >> > should > >> >> > >> >> >> > be > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > shot. Those > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > who serve valiantly this country > > deserve > >> > our > >> >> > >> >> >> respect > >> >> > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > admiration. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > From: Larry C. Lyons > >> >> > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:55 > >> AM > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: A good american > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Let me put it this way, the sort of > >> >> belief > >> >> > >> that > >> >> > >> >> >> >> deifies > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > veterans etc > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > is as > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > dangerous as those who would gladly > >> >> betray > >> >> > >> this > >> >> > >> >> >> >> country. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > At 09:35 AM 6/11/2003 -0400, John > >> >> Stanley > >> >> > > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >While I hardly think > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >that my survival depends on the > >> >> > sacrifices > >> >> > > of > >> >> > >> >> >> the > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > military, > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >Let me clarify, do you mean that you > > do > >> > not > >> >> > >> >> >> respect > >> >> > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > veterans who > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >have served and sometimes died for > >> the > >> >> > >> Untied > >> >> > >> >> > States? > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5