with. I almost NEVER come in contact with cheaters anymore, and the
ones I do see in games get banned with alarming speed.
The distributed, homegrown nature of CS is what's made it so popular.
If Valve tries to supercede all this with a monolithic anti-cheating
device, it'll backfire.
I've played on servers where I've had an alarmingly good day and go
frag-happy (that, and I'm a camper, so I rack up kills in strings
usually) and get accused of cheating, but I've never been banned by a
human admin, since they can see what's happening and make a judgment call.
- Jim
Jim Davis wrote:
>Exactly.
>
>Checking regularly isn't that big a deal- even if, for example, it was
>only done on a map change or death or in "suspicious" cases (20 frags
>from one player in a row). The checksum is a very small value (only a
>few hundred bytes at most) and could easily be slipped in. Since it's
>so small the server could easily track the progress of characters - when
>a character is "alone" (far away from others) then the request for the
>check could be made.
>
>The problem here is that Valve wants the best of both worlds and I doubt
>they'll get it: they want the most advanced and easy to use modification
>engine ever AND the ability to stop cheaters. I doubt that you can open
>up the guts of your app as much as they want to and stop all cheating.
>It'll be interesting to see them try. but I'm really skeptical.
>
>At the very least somebody will determine how to spoof the checksum or
>even lower, the checking software.
>
>Jim Davis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:29 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Half-Life 2 Source Code leaked
>
>But they'd have to check regularly, since it could be possible to have
>the Steam server validate your software's checksum or something and then
>
>load a 'helper' to facilitate those 100% headshots.
>
>- Jim
>
>Jim Davis wrote:
>
>
>
>>I'm not sure if it's that smart. It would seem, if you want to prevent
>>"hacked" copies of the source you could just check CRCs/digital
>>signatures on the binary files. This would work, at least, for the
>>Valve shipped maps and such.
>>
>>It's the Mod stuff that'll be harder than hell to track - some mods are
>>themselves "cheats" that everybody has (low gravity, new weapons, etc).
>>Even then however a simple CRC check would determine if everybody on
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>map was playing the SAME mod files or if Dan, maybe had a little
>>something extra. ;^)
>>
>>All told I wouldn't expect it to be really all that intelligent
>>
>>
>however.
>
>
>>Jim Davis
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:03 PM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re: Half-Life 2 Source Code leaked
>>
>>I wonder how Steam does it? I mean, if it's analyzing every packet
>>
>>
>that
>
>
>>comes through, it'll be a molasses-slow disaster. On top of that, if
>>they can figure out how to mask hacks in legitimate wrappers, it could
>>compromise Steam anyway.
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Do you know if HL2 will hook into the new Steam system for online
>>>
>>>
>play?
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I thought Steam was supposed to block hacks and such...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:51 PM
>>>To: CF-Community
>>>Subject: Half-Life 2 Source Code leaked
>>>
>>>http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/02/1547218
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>><http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/02/1547218
>><http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/02/1547218
>>
>>
><http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/02/1547218&mode=nested&t
>
>
>>&mode=nested&t
>>id=126&tid=127&tid=156&tid=172&tid=186&threshold=-1%3e>
>>&mode=nested&tid=126&tid=127&tid=156&tid=172&tid=186&threshold=-1>
>>&mode=nested&tid=126&tid=127&tid=156&tid=172&tid=186&threshold=-1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Doesn't particularly mean someone will compile Half-Life 2 and release
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>it, since it's old code, but I guarantee it'll immediately contribute
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>cheat hacks for multiplayer. Oh, and the lovely, shattered dream of
>>>playing Half-Life multiplayer without [EMAIL PROTECTED] and aimbots.
>>>
>>>- Jim
>>>
>>>
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