I disagree. What is wrong with the death penalty is not that the state
cannot prove it's case concretely, it is that they prove their case
concretely against the wrong person in too many cases.

There have been at least five high-profile death row cases in the
Baltimore area that have been overturned as a result of DNA testing. In
one case, an innocent man lost 32 years of his life because the state
proved, to the satisfaction of a jury, he was the killer.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:49 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Yeah!!

What you didn't factor in is the legal costs of all the appeals that go
into a death penalty case.  If the state is going to kill a person, they
have to be very, very, very sure they are killing the right person and
this usually requires such cases to go to at least a state supreme court
level, if not well into federal courts often to or nearly to the US
supreme court.

The trouble with this in my mind is in our flawed system, we have too
many cases of maybe this person did this crime, but the state really
can't prove it concretely.  And it is very very very hard to repeal a
death penalty once it has been carried out if new evidence comes to
light proving the convicted person  was actually innocent.  Not only did
the State wrongly execute an innocent person, the often overlooked
corollary is the actual guilty person got away with the crime!

So I tend to be against the Death Penalty, I would be very against the
death penalty without an appeals process because that would make it even
more likely that unfortunate innocents could get railroaded into the
execution chamber.

While there are definitely very specific, individual cases that probably
deserve to be removed from humanity in a very immediate and permanent
way, until it can be proved that ONLY these individuals end up in the
executioners hands, I would rather they be locked away behind very
secure doors until they leave this world on their own accord, so that
mistakes in Justice can someday be corrected.

Philip Arnold Asked:

Now, if you DO have the death penalty, you only have to pay for them
during the time upto their execution, and then the execution itself

So, how can 20+ years of keeping them in prison cost more than the
execution? Unless someone is REALLY ripping off the state, then you're
gonna save Millions, aren't you?

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