I think it's also worth acknowledging though that attacking other religions
is pretty much a necessity for any religion. At their core, religions serve
two purposes: 1) codify a set of rules for behaviour for the preservation of
a culture; and 2) attempt to explain the big hows and whys of the universe.

These are both predicated on convincing people that the given religion is
the correct way to acheive these two things. For the protection of the
religion, it is essential for it to include written "truths" that other
beliefs are false, and it will almost always have a cultural set of
behaviours to reinforce those truths. (Typically the first is from the
Torah/Bible/Koran, the second is from the mechanics of the church.)

Of course, the various religions generally try to offset the "attack" rules
by espousing how believers are protected and even non-believers can be
"saved".

-Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lyons, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church

> Its not a matter of that person, but trying to inoculate the others from
> that particular meme. Left unchallenged that sort of meme does spread. I
> sort of had this out last week when some missionaries came by our place to
> proselytize (does that make them proselytutes?). After listening to their
> message, which was quite the challenge given that I was holding the new
> ferret and she was trying to tear a large hole in my hand, I began asking
> them some real nasty time bomb type questions. Getting people to think is
> always the goal.
>
> larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:47 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Comments on Catholic Church
> >
> >
> > Larry -
> >
> > No doubt about Martin Luther. There is a perverted element to
> > some of his writings, though I always thought his fixation on
> > bowel movements was meant to underscore his disdain for the Church.
> >
> > Now, about this hate speech. You are right, it has been with
> > us a long time, and has been fueling massacre after massacre
> > of Catholics for hundreds if not thousands of years.
> >
> > But it is hard to fight people's beliefs, and there are
> > entire denominations of "Christianity" devoted to attacking
> > the Catholic church. I can talk myself blue in the face with
> > someone from the Unitarians, the Universalists, or the Church
> > of Latter Day Saints about why these arguments are wrong, but
> > at the end of the conversation they are still telling me I
> > believe the Pope is God.
> >
> > I just don't see the point of it anymore. Telling people they
> > are wrong is not as significant as showing people why you are right.
> >
> > M
>
>
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