>I wasn't saying anything about missionaries. Yes Judaism and the Jews have
>been attacked for millenia. But it also has plenty of examples where it says
>other religions are wrong, and that's what I was saying. The whole not
>worshipping idols thing is the obvious example. And Mike has repeatedly
>refered to the Jewish tenets that counter the possibility of Jesus being the
>Messiah. Again an example of one religion "attacking" another.
I think you are using the word "attacking" loosely.
Saying that you disagree with someone,
or that you think they are incorrect,
is not an "attack". Sounds paranoid...
And I took an entire class (with my wife, and a group
including nuns in habit and conservative Jews), on
"Who Is The Messiah?". Turns out the word was being
used with two entirely different meanings on the
Jewish and Christian sides. In that context, it's
possible BOTH are correct - i.e., Jesus was AND
was not the Messiah. Separate thread sometime.
>
>I'm not trying to say it's good or bad. I'm just saying it's inherent to how
>religions work to satisfy their core purpose.
>
>And because while I know a little about Judaism, I don't claim to be a
>scholar in it I'll quote Mike here on the "save" comment I made:
>
>"Jews believe in a single God who chose them to keep his laws. Jews hold
>that anyone can enter into heaven."
>
>That jibes with other things I've read that led me to the comment about
>non-believers being "saved". Saved was maybe the wrong word. It's a
>typically Christian word concept, and it has lots of debate as to what it
>means. My point was that while religions need to have protection tenets they
>mitigate that with acceptance tenets. I was trying to throw out a bone there
>and say that religions aren't fundamentally about hate.
Yes, it's a typically Christian word concept, since we do not
believe in Original Sin. Totally different life view. If I believe
there is GOOD in all of us, and we just need to develop it to be
closer to God and God's purpose, and you believe there is SIN in
all of us, which can only be overcome through Christ as Savior,
then of course we will have diametrically different views on a
lot of faith topics.
And re "hate", if my wife and I have been misled by traditional
misconceptions about another faith tradition, we as reasonably
intelligent and open-minded persons would like to learn the truth.
Different but similar: Bush accuses Kerry of flip-flopping on
issues. Kerry says when he realized he'd been misled or lied to,
he changed his position based on the revealed truth :-)
-Ben
>
>-Kevin
>
>
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