> Some of us out here actually KNOW HOW TO CODE! We don't need bloatware
> handholding to create high-quality sites.




And some of us that know how to code also know how to *properly* use a
Visual Design Tool where and when appropriate to the task and/or team
environment at hand. Just because a tool offers a visual component doesn't
necessarily mean it's intended for amatuers nor that it will create bloated
code when used *properly*. Should be interesting to see UltraDev given the
quality of other Macromedia products.

Ken


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