thank you bryan!

let matt be matt, i kinda was waiting
for his response, i knew it would be very matt ;-)

anyhow, the truth of the matter is this....if i can
develop rich cf applications for companies
in half the time, that it might take an asp coder
to do it, with half the code, i will, and until something
better comes along, thats what im doing...

of course there is other code to the cfmail tag, what idiot
wouldnt know that?  but the point was, from a developers
prospective, why waste your time on asp or php or anything
like that, when you can simply make the BIGGEST BADDEST
web apps in the world, with an easy to use tag based markup
language.

i didnt ask the toyota dealer if he used craftsman tools to build my
celica, i simply asked him if it worked, and when i turned
the ignition on, it worked, i was pleased.  

tony....




-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP


Matt I think Tony is bang on.  Yes the additinal code may be hidden from
us,
but because of that fact we can develop faster and reduce development
costs
for clients.

That said I still think it's good to know a few langauges and that's why
I'm
starting on ASP.NET, Java, and a smidge of PHP to round it out....geesh
I
sound like a geek don't I ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP


> Oh please! You're comparing apples to oranges. Just because all of the
> cfmail code is hidden from you; it doesn't mean it isn't there.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:35 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> >
> > CASE IN POINT!!!!
> >
> > <<<<<<<<TOO MANY LINES/CHARACTERS OF BS VBSHIT CODE>>>>>>>
> >
> > ************************************
> > Dim MyMail
> > Dim MsgText
> >
> > Set MsgText = Request.Form("FirstName") + " " +
> Request.Form("LastName")
> > + " has requested more information."
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + "Please contact them at " +
> > Request.Form("Phone")
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("FirstName") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("LastName") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("Addr1") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("Addr2") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("City") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("State") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("ZIP") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("Email") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("Phone") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("Comments") + VBCrLf
> > Set MsgText = MsgText + Request.Form("NoMkt") + VBCrLf
> >
> > Set MyMail = CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail")
> > MyMail.From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > MyMail.To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > MyMail.Subject = "Information Request"
> > MyMail.BodyFormat = 1 'plain text
> > MyMail.MailFormat = 1 'plain text
> > MyMail.Body = MsgText
> > MyMail.Send
> > Set MyMail = Nothing
> > ********************************
> >
> > !END CASE IN POINT!
> >
> > Compared to this..............
> >
> > <cfmail to="" from="" server="" subject="">some stuff
> here.....</cfmail>
> >
> > there is no comparison, the only thing we need to do with asp is
Port
> it
> > to CFML
> > so that our clients get what they deserve!
> >
> > ..tony
> >
> > Tony Weeg
> > Senior Web Developer
> > Information System Design
> > Navtrak, Inc.
> > Fleet Management Solutions
> > www.navtrak.net
> > 410.548.2337
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Perez, Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:11 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP
> >
> >
> > As long as the price is right... :)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:56 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP
> >
> >
> > Use the right tool for the job. And if you have to ask if you should
> > keep
> > all your eggs in one basket then I have a bridge I'd like to sell
you.
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Perez, Jimmy wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I am a CF certified developer (missed advanced by three points)
but
> am
> > thinking of expanding my horizons/marketability.  I have started
> getting
> > up to speed in ASP/VBScript but the question keeps coming up:
should
> I
> > even spend any time doing this or should I just concentrate on CF?
> The
> > more e-mails I read in this list, the more I realize how powerful CF
> is,
> > but should I keep all my eggs in one basket so to speak?  Any good
> > advice?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 

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