Then maybe it's not meant for you Matt.

To each his own, eh?

Jesse Noller
Macromedia Server Development
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Studio Observation
> 
> I actually doubt many people on this list fit that description. It has
> been years since I was involved in a web application that didn't have
> some kind of interface to allow for content editing by non-technical
> folk.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:jnoller@;macromedia.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:39 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Contribute and Studio Observation
> >
> > The Point of Contribute is to not "deprecate" the programmer/designer.
> The
> > point is to allow PHBs to quickly edit things like "company contact
> > information" or "news of the day" or "what's for lunch", primarily
> simple,
> > doc-like sections of the website.
> >
> > How many of us have sat there twiddling our thumbs waiting for a PHB
> to
> > email us the text for something as simple as "company description"...
> Or,
> > as simple as "item description".
> >
> > Me? I'd rather not have to burn 800 hours hitting refresh on my mail
> > client while I wait for a paragraph of text to be added by some middle
> > manager who had to hack it out through a legal department.
> >
> > Jesse Noller
> > Macromedia Server Development
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Polickoski [mailto:rpolickoski@;isrd.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:09 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Contribute and Studio Observation
> > >
> > > Not that I am trying to be exclusive or pompous, but when you
> > > start allowing people who know nothing about web page design or
> > > development to design or develop web pages, you get web pages
> > > designed or developed by people who know nothing about the
> > > process.  I think it is a dangerous trend to try to make all
> > > technology available to everyone.
> > >
> > > As a case and point:  The professional secreatry is all but dead.
> > > Because the word processor is now available to everyone, everyone
> > > is expected to use it.  Therefore, you now have middle executive
> > > types spending twice as long to develop documents at 3 times the
> > > cost with 1/2 the effectiveness because they really don't know how
> > > to write.
> > >
> > > Specialization is not always a bad thing.  Is it so horrible to
> > > expect that if someone wants to use a technology, they actually
> > > learn how to use it.
> > >
> > > Just my $0.02.
> > >
> > > Robert J. Polickoski
> > > Senior Programmer, ISRD Inc.
> > > (540) 842-6339
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > AIM - RobertJFP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date:  Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:19:57 -0500
> > >
> > > >> At the risk of being a trouble maker, I just have to make this
> > > >> observation.
> > > >
> > > >> Now that we are allowed to talk about Contribute, I have to say
> > > the
> > > >> following:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> We have been told that MM is doing away with Studio/Homesite
> > > because they
> > > >> do not want to have more than one editing application in their
> > > application
> > > >> portfolio. I accepted this despite Dreamweaver's obvious issues
> > > that have
> > > >> already been covered to death. So what is the next application
> > > that MM
> > > >> releases? Another web editing application.
> > > >
> > > >> I might be the only one that is irked by this, or maybe not,
> > > but it seems
> > > >> very odd to me.
> > > >
> > > >I wouldn't say that this new tool is in any way a replacement for
> > > CF Studio
> > > >.. It's a web-based tool to allow non-technical ( or less-
> > > technical ) users
> > > >to edit web content... So... it really in no way compares to
> > > Studio. What
> > > >they're after is the wider audience of general, non-programmer
> > > business
> > > >users, which is an entirely different market than Studio
> > > targeted. So I
> > > >don't think it really relates (at least not directly) to their
> > > saying they
> > > >didn't want to support more than one _traditional_ editing
> > > application. You
> > > >wouldn't buy Contribute for the folks in your office currently
> > > using either
> > > >CF Studio or Dreamweaver -- you'd buy Contribute for the folks in
> > > your
> > > >office currently sending email to the folks using CF Studio or
> > > Dreamweaver
> > > >to ask them to make changes.
> > > >
> > > >S. Isaac Dealey
> > > >Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > >
> > > >www.turnkey.to
> > > >954-776-0046
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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