Way to go Dawn...a Canuck on Canuck taxes...excellent ;-)

Just one note on brokerage fees....

I believe they relate to the fees charged by the courier companies when
goods cross the border or it's just another fee from the CCRA (Canadian
Customs and Revenue Agency).  There is always duty and then the mysterious
extra brokerage/handling fee (which is usually really high).  I don't think
it neccessarily has anything to do with using a specific broker for
importing/exporting goods.

Either way it's nothing that should be factored into your eComm site (other
than to mention to customers they could get dinged at the border).

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dawn Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: SOT: E-Commerce site for Canada


> We have two levels of sales tax--GST at 7% which is a federal tax and must
> be collected by the merchant and submitted to the feds directly via a
> special remission process, which includes detailed reporting. There are
> certain goods that are GST exempt (food for one). Certain businesses are
GST
> exempt (mostly government services), but I don't know all the exemptions.
> GST reports must be remitted bases on whatever reporting period the
business
> has opted for, or in some cases, the reporting periods are enforced.
Usually
> it's quarterly, some are annual, some do it monthly--depends on volume in
> part. In some cases services provided for minors are tax exempt (e.g.,
> swimming classes for kids under 14). It isn't all that straightforward--so
> you'll need to know the nature of the goods or services being sold, and
the
> audience it is sold to.
>
> In addition to that we have sales tax in most provinces--each province has
a
> separate rate. This tax must be submitted to the appropriate provincial
> governments and is separate and distinct from the GST. Each province has
> their own set of rules--again certain goods are exempt. Also, if you
reside
> in a tax exempt province (as I do in Alberta) and buy goods in a province
> that has sales tax where you plan to use the goods in the province of your
> residence (eg. I buy a car in BC but reside in tax-exempt Alberta and will
> use it here), you can be exempt. I'm not sure if that's the case in all
> provinces, but it is in BC. Once again, each province is regulated
> differerent.
>
> Jason talks about a brokerage fee--his explanation is a bit unclear. But
it
> sounds like what is happening is that the client he is referring to uses a
> broker to clear imported goods, and that percentage fee is a service fee
> paid to the broker--this isn't a tax issue, this is a business decision.
> Brokers typically remit duty and GST for you and that is included in their
> invoice, along with their service charge. In order to clear the goods and
> have them released, they remit all taxes including GST and duty to the
feds
> (Receiver General) and then collect from their client. This is an issue
most
> ecomm sites wouldn't have to go near. Depending on the size of the
business,
> they might want to talk to a logistics specialist at a customs broker to
> make sure they have a proper workflow in place.
>
> I don't have a clue what happens to tax when you sell to the US from
Canada.
>
> Note that this is a very cursory explanation, and much more detail would
be
> needed.
>
> I do know our banks here aren't particularly keen on ecommerce, especially
> with physical goods, and they have been known to impose very high security
> deposits to cover possible chargebacks. I looked into this for a furniture
> company, and they were told they would have to put up the equivalent of 3
> months sales for VISA--which would have been hundreds of thousands of
> dollars. Interestingly, American Express required no deposit.
>
> But this is far from the issue of CF---if anyone has any questions they
feel
> I might be able to help with, please feel free to email me. My knowledge
is
> only that of a Canadian citizen who buys stuff--not as a developer who has
> looked into it in detail. But I'll certainly help if I can....
>
> fwiw,
> Dawn
>
>
>
>
> > Matt -
> > I just actually dissassembled a canada shipping/ tax piece on one of my
> > clients sites I built.
> > Basically here are the elements -
> > 1) Broker Fee / Customs and all that - Typically a broker fee is
> > involved - a percentage based fee. Includes a standard federal percetn
> > fee too I believe. If not broker- then I guess jsut the federal - my
> > clients used a Broker to eliminate this guessing.
> > 2) Province tax - as much as 15% in Newfoundland
> > 3) Exchange Rate
> > 4) Your shipping rates - flat rate or carrier
> >
> > We applied tax pre-shipping cost - yet the broker fee I beleive needed
> > to be on complete purchase.
> >
> > Hope this little bit helps. Feel free to email me off list if you wnat
> > further details.
> > jay miller
> >
> > P.S. THe rates i have for province are as follows ( please confirm them)
> > Province    ProvAbr    TaxRate
> > Alberta    AB    7
> > British Columbia    BC    14
> > Manitoba    MB    14
> > New Brunswick    NB    15
> > Newfoundland    NF    15
> > Northwest Territories    NT    7
> > Nova Scotia    NS    15
> > Nunavut    NT    7
> > Ontario    ON    15
> > Prince Edward Island    PE    7
> > Quebec    PQ    16
> > Saskatchewan    SK    13
> > Yukon    YT    7
> >
> > Matthew Fusfield wrote:
> >
>
>
> 
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