was just too involved & slow compared to BBEdit.
I wasn't doing any Java programming at the time, so I saw no need to
change IDEs.
When I decided to learn Java, I decided to look for an IDE to ease the
pain. Eclipse looks like the best bet, so far.
BBEdit color-codes Java, and has a Glossary where you can get/write
plugins (that's how CF is implemented). There is a jsp plugin & I may
get that.
I wanted to avoid fiddling with classpath, javac, etc. -- Eclipse does
a pretty good job of that (once you figure it out).
Also, I have observed that Java apps tend to have a lot more components
than procedural-language apps -- Eclipse does a pretty good job of
managing them.
But, I am still learning Eclipse and have only scratched the surface.
Since it is Java-oriented it should help guide me (gently prod or
strong-arm) to good Java development habits,
That said, I haven't seen anything yet that Eclipse can do that BBEdit
can't.
Once I learn how to do Java in Eclipse, I may revert to BBEdit.
BBEdit has built-in hooks for adding code completion, snippets,
compile/execute scripts. So It shouldn't be too difficult to make
BBEdit do whatever the Eclipse IDE is doing (that I need to do.
As, I've mentioned previously, BBEdit, as an editor, is superior to the
one(s) in Eclipse (or elsewhere, for that matter).
Dick
On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:36 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:
> I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW
> is
> beat down bad by CFEclipse. However, right now I find the whole thing
> rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to
> figure
> out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in
> Eclipse. Of
> course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a
> new
> program....
>
> Ray
>
> At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote:
> >What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dick Applebaum
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> > >
> > > So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse:
> > >
> > > 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the
> pages
> > > are stuck together
> > > 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are
> wearing
> > > mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard
> > >
> > > ... It just feels slow!
> > >
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