Wouldn't the buginess be a part of Eclipse itself in regards to the source safe integration?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Nick Giovanni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >My point regarding cfeclipse is that it works really, REALLY well > > CFeclipse has been buggy (for lack of a better term) for me. It's also a > real pain to integrate with source safe. I really do like CFEclipse when > it > works. And if Adobe can offer the same or better, without the bugs and > support it, then I'd be willing to pay for it. > > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Craig Dudley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That would be me :p > > > > Persoanlly I don't care whether they charge me for the server or the IDE, > > or perhaps even both as long as it's only roughly the same amount in > total. > > I'm in the rather unique position of having one server licence and need > of > > only one IDE. > > > > My point regarding cfeclipse is that it works really, REALLY well. So why > > should we I pay for something which seems at first glance to be very > similar > > (at least in my mind). It's going to have to have some awesome extra > > features to make me part with my hard earned cash, I ssupect many other > > cfeclipse users feel the same. > > > > Craig. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:50 PM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Robert Harrison < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If anything they should charge $500 for an IDE and give away > ColdFusion > > > for free > > > > > > That is so much better of a business model. The main problem selling CF > > web > > > sites is the cost to deploy a site. Too much of the burden is going to > > the > > > site owners or hosts. > > > > > > What they should do is give away a free CFSERVER runtime that only runs > > > compiled code and sell the IDE/compiler to developers. The whole > business > > > model is backwards the way it is now, and it's definitely hurting > sales. > > > Developers are always willing to pay for an IDE/compiler. And that > would > > > also solve the whole issue the need to encrypt CFcode before deploying > to > > > an > > > unfamiliar ISP's server. > > > > > > I love CF and would really like to see Adobe fix this business model. > It > > > would definitely be better for the whole CF community and would make CF > a > > > more competitive solution. > > > > > > > I'm always curious when people make such definitive statements... > > > > - it's definitely hurting sales > > > > Do people really think that a corporation as large as Adobe makes > decisions > > in a vacuum? I'm not saying a big corporation is always right, but I'd > > tend > > to think that the people making the decisions have more information at > > their > > disposal and do take the information into consideration. > > > > - Developers are always willing to pay for an IDE/compiler > > > > Really? In the thread on the recently-announced CF IDE (the thread that > > spawned this one), one developer unequivocally stated, "if it's more than > > $0, i'll stick with CFEclipse". > > > > As developers, we're passionate people. We make statements based more on > > emotion than fact. I believe there's less emotion in the board rooms > where > > these decisions are made, and the decision-makers have a wealth of > > information at their disposal that we as outsiders are simply not aware > of. > > > > It's easy for us to look at specific decisions as they affect us as > > developers and/or business owners and lose sight of the fact that there's > a > > bigger picture out there. > > > > -- > > I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my > > wife. And I wish you my kind of success. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315629 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
