They are some very good points Adam, but one has to ask would there not be, considering that there was an actual number mentioned, at least one or two Senior guys who could?
If not why not... -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Adam Cameron < adamcameroncoldfus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 31 January 2013 01:11, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Maybe I'm crazy, but if a developer doesn't know how to install > ColdFusion, > > or install a web server, than they aren't a web developer. (And they can > > learn to this in one hour.) I have _never_ seen an org where IT was > > responsible for setting up base installs like that. That would be like IT > > installing Chrome for you. > > > > > There are two things here, Ray: > > 1. Yes, anyone calling themselves a CF dev should be able to do those > things. I am, however, *astounded* at how many do not, and how many CF > developers' technical knowledge & capabilities drop away very quickly > once > they get away from CFML itself. > 2. That said, I've found it reasonably common in larger teams (and in > companies that aren't just a specialist IT shop) wherein the developers > are > not "special users" when it comes to how they fit into the company's IT > infrastructure, and they're all just "plain users" like everyone else in > the company. Having been on both sides of this code: a sysadmin, and a > user, I prefer the developers to *not* be administrators. From an admin > POV few developers know what they're doing well enough to be trusted > with > admin role on a network: the chief thing they don't know is that they > don't > know everything (whilst thinking they do), and they certainly don't > tend to > consider anything other than their own personal requirements (which can > compromise the network if left unchecked). From a user POV, I'd rather > than > someone administer my machine for me, than have to do it myself. I'm > here > to write code, not configure & maintain my computer. Then again perhaps > I'm > an anomalous developer in that hardware and software configuration bore > me > shitless. I can do it, but I find it tedious. And it's nice to have > people > around to do it for me. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
