I have contracted at a few large orgs where they have sysadmin who do everything, and even they didn't really know what they were doing. Here are just a few things I have found in such orgs (cf specific) :- cf badly configured in general debugging left on on a production server log files, class files and temp files never cleaned up so causing bottlenecks not given enough ram and not even posisble to give enough due to running 32bit on a 64bit OS (for no reason). FusionReactor installed and not configured, so sitting there doing virtually nothing. RDS installed on production All mail going through localhost instead of separate mail server, which was not even being used undelivered mail never being checked and it goes on....
for some reason they really pissed off when you point all these problems out to them as well. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Phillip Duba <phild...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree with Russ. We have CF, .Net, Java, and PHP all in our environments > and the majority of the developers don't know how install and configure. > The senior people do, particularly with CF and Java. I've only worked in > large organizations where there is a distinct group in charge of > administration so even have a developer with any type of rights to learn > about configuration and setup is very rare, > > Phil > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk> > wrote: > > > > > lets not just tar cf developers with that brush Adam. > > It really applies to all developers. > > PHP developers are just as bad if not worse, in fact even companies who > > develop and sell PHP software (whmcs.com for example) are at a loss when > > you get server caused by PHP, they have absolutely no idea what to do or > > where to look when things break. One reason why I hate PHP in fact, it is > > awful to debug. > > So many people rely on control panels to do everything for them, so they > > have hosting with ABC Host, and they have cpanel, and they develop > directly > > on the live site and do not have any development environment at all. This > > is shockingly common. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Wasn't this in regards to the the lack of experience in the original > > > thread? > > > > > > He seemed to indicate there was like 50+ developers, you would think > out > > of > > > that many there is at least 1 or 2 very smart people who could train > the > > > other developers. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Andrew Scott > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > > > Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
