@Russ I can certainly tell, that we have very different views as to which constitutes a quote-unquote developer.
In keeping with the automotive analogies, I feel that what Raymond is essentially saying, is that he would not hire you to drive a car, unless you were a mechanic. I feel differently about this, as I would rather hire a chauffeur to drive me around than a mechanic - but this is my personal preference of course. Would I expect my chauffeur to be able to diagnose a flat tire and change it? Absolutely. Would I expect him to be able to diagnose and fix a problem in the engine management system? Absolutely not. In the same way I personally feel, that although a developer should know (or be able to deduce) about potential security issues like the ones you describe, I would not expect him to know about all the internals of the server. If nothing else, I think we can safely say, that Mr. Camden would not employee me, as I would much rather leave setting up servers and the likes, to those who specialize in precisely that :) (oh and on a side note, I find it very interesing to learn about the obviously different views expressed in this thread - gives a man something to ponder) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354241 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm