No what Ray is saying is that a developer should be able to turn the car on and drive it, but to maintain the car you need professional help with it.
Michael I think you need to stop for a minute, a developer should know there way around the Administrator, they should also know how to add sites to Apache and IIS and be able to install software, but to luck it down and fully secure it, then yes leave that to those who know and developer machines don't need that. And if they are exposed to the internet then you have more bigger issues than you comparisons listed below. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Michael Christensen <mich...@strib.dk>wrote: > > @Russ > > I can certainly tell, that we have very different views as to which > constitutes a quote-unquote developer. > > In keeping with the automotive analogies, I feel that what Raymond is > essentially saying, is that he would not hire you to drive a car, unless > you were a mechanic. > I feel differently about this, as I would rather hire a chauffeur to drive > me around than a mechanic - but this is my personal preference of course. > > Would I expect my chauffeur to be able to diagnose a flat tire and change > it? Absolutely. > Would I expect him to be able to diagnose and fix a problem in the engine > management system? Absolutely not. > > In the same way I personally feel, that although a developer should know > (or be able to deduce) about potential security issues like the ones you > describe, I would not expect him to know about all the internals of the > server. > > If nothing else, I think we can safely say, that Mr. Camden would not > employee me, as I would much rather leave setting up servers and the likes, > to those who specialize in precisely that :) > > (oh and on a side note, I find it very interesing to learn about the > obviously different views expressed in this thread - gives a man something > to ponder) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm