> Full, complete and total customisation in ADDITION to an easy upgrade
path,
> isn't possible.

Of course it is! It is called separation of content and design, which in
tandem with extensibility, meets all these requirements. In all practical
senses, it is available in many of the applications we already use.

AbleCommerce, despite any other faults or short comings, is a good example
of this. The last time I looked at the product, the user could chose the
look and design of the site using a web based wizard. The wizard creates
several display templates unique to that instance of the store.

The display templates constitute the design and layout of the store. There
are only a few of them, and they can be stored anywhere. They can also be
customized to your hearts content without affecting the store engine. The
engine can be upgraded without replacing the affecting the display files.

> Once you start to mess with the source code it stops being Fusetalk or
> Ultimate Bulletin Board and it becomes YOUR messageboard.

With all do respect to the developers on those projects, that's because
those products are lacking in this respect, which is why we are having this
dialog.

> That said, I still think that Fusetalk is the best message board system I
> have seen for Coldfusion, or any other application server/scripting
> language, whether you want to use it 'out the box', or as a base to build
> your own.

I think it is the most respectable product of the bunch, but it is a very
rigid application. It is certainly not a one-size fits all application, and
unfortunately, it doesn't seem to fit us. :) We are an ISP/ASP/Design shop:
we would prefer an application that can address all the aspects of our
business. The next version should address some of FuseTalk's shortcomings on
the ISP/ASP side of things. Hopefully, they will also address some of the
concerns we've been discussing.

Benjamin S. Rogers
Web Developer, c4.net
Voice: (508) 240-0051
Fax: (508) 240-0057

*humph*
*folds arms and nods firmly*
.....
.....
;-)
hee hee hee
-Gel
www.carigamer.com
Island Gaming At Its Best!(tm),

-----Original Message-----
From: cassady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Customization is the most important part – look and function.

(1) I use a forum system for Spank! Youth Culture Online, and there is no
way that most available forums systems out there can be customized to meet
the target demographic: 14 to 24. Look, feel, texture, graphics, flow,
readability (or lack there of!) is all-important. I have some background in
layout and typography – and flow for a site has to work.

(2) Customization of code: I needed to tie in the users to a whole bunch of
tracking and publishing stats and permission. Also, we’re working on
incorporating Short Messaging into the forums, assignable graphics, et. All.
While you’re not specifying functionality – any changes or additions will
have an influence on the layout and GUI. So again – if you begin to deviate
from the package, than you need to be able to rip the interface apart.

(3)While I am totally biased (I built Spank!s forums from the ground up, and
am rewriting them again) – there really is nothing better than total
customization of the GUI, which usually means ripping most of the any
packaged system code apart.

Stephen R. Cassady
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