Actually my reason for being upset is getting told one thing and it never happening on multiple occasions. Sure, we could have contacted them and asked why they told us this was going to happen and it never did and THEN it would happen. Not like it was a huge expense to become a partner, but when you pay for something, it seems only right that the vender hold up to their end of the agreement, which they will if you take the effort to bug them. I see it like this, if you are a developer and you get paid up front for a site to be made and you do no coding on it but tell the client the site will be up, then the client asks where the site is and then you code it and deploy it ... think the client would continue to use that developer or think the developer just did not care?
Now, I will admit I think had we had CF5 Server for Linux in our hands on a couple of occasions we could have shown some clients how some of the new tags and speed improvements would have helped them and sold them on upgrading to that. However that too is not really a huge deal. as far as studio, I think our copy of 4.5 or whatever it is that came with the partner package is still inside its original "seal". Oh well, it is Friday, almost weekend time and that is a good thing. Snipe - <CF_BotMaster Network="EFNet" Channel="ColdFusion"> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: > CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... > > IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the > software and "try before you buy". Some partners undoubtedly use the > software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of > the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't > included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really > makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to "evaluate " > it, there's a 30 day demo for that... > > If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit > full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF eno ugh > to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefo re > would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you ne ed > it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you > are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing any one > on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid > reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... > > I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to d emo > capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you si t > down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live > demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales > partners just sell the product, no demo, just "how many you want?". > > Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners ma y > need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? > Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear rea l > scenarios where a partner needed a "partner copy" of Studio? > > I think many people have the belief that "if you get less stuff it must b e a > bad thing". Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of > Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those f or > our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner > program. > > So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lackin g? > Are we all partners just for "all the free stuff", of do we actually expe ct > something more from the program? I mean lets face it, that's really why > many of us participate. Get free stuff, put it on your laptop, put it on > your home computer, put it on computers around the office... Not legal, but > we all know it happens, and not just a little, it happens ALOT... Now th ey > are taking away the free stuff, and it turns out there's nothing else of > interest left in the program? > > Lets all be realistic and come up with reasons that we actually NEED the > "free stuff". Again, not trying to bash anyone or accuse anyone of > anything, but if all we do is whine that the free stuff is gone, I seriou sly > doubt it's gonna change anything. > > Questions: > > Why do you need the "free stuff", and why doesn't the 30 day trial softwa re > fill this need? > > What, in addition to the items listed on the partner program overview do we > need/expect? > http://spectra15.macromedia.com/overview/NA_benefits.cfm > > -Cameron > > -------------------- > Cameron Childress > elliptIQ Inc. > p.770.460.1035.232 > f.770.460.0963 > -- > http://www.neighborware.com > America's Leading Community Network Software > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:38 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... > > > > > > >> That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no > > >> longer worth it to me or my company. > > > > > > Same here, guess it was nice while it lasted though. > > > > Sorry to hear that, but if you have a few minutes, then could you drop a > > note to the Partners team and tell them how the service no longer met y our > > needs? That would give them the feedback they'd need to tune things bet ter > > in the future, thanks. > > > > The contact link is here: > > http://www.macromedia.com/partners/ > > > > tx, > > jd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US > > Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ > > Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your > > email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are > > available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Why Share? 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